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re: TOP 20 NIL Collectives

Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:17 pm to
It will be interesting to see how those numbers correlate with playoff appearances/titles.

Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4775 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:26 pm to
Sure, College Football is where the money is at, but why does everyone assume the only measurement of success is a school’s football program?

I guarantee the (#18) Kansas University collective isn’t focused on football.

There are obviously other NIL programs that are beneficial outside of the official “collective”.
i.e. GetGordon, Cane’s, etc
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38759 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:28 pm to
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you bitch about NIL and don't donate, stop. You're part of the problem. If you do donate, bitch away.


Lol I am not going to pay a kid to play football
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6629 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Lol I am not going to pay a kid to play football


OK, but just keep in mind if LSU and all their followers had this same stance, LSU will finish with 4 wins each year. As much as it sucks, that's where we are at.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8611 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:03 pm to
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Lol I am not going to pay a kid to play football


Nobody told you to. At least not in my post.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10371 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 2:27 pm to
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MOST of the HS kids didn't go with most NIL money. Most left tens of thousands on the table. Development and dream school were top reasons. Only one kid they interviewed said he went with most money.



A program that utilizes NIL effectively has coordination between the school program, the coaches, and the managers of the collective funds.

There are some situations where coaches don’t do a good job of evaluating talent and or character so they get players who are bad character, or talent and no one wants the player representing for them.
There are situations where the manager of the collective is interested in baseball and doesn’t give a damn about football.

With this new landscape, being a coach is a huge undertaking. They’re fighting for money from a collective representing the same school!

Then there’s the allocation of funds.

Take football for instance; if the money isn’t spread around to supporting cast, it’s not going to work. QB, RB and to some extent receivers are going to benefit from a solid OL. If it were my decision, I’d be paying the OL more than other schools. Same for DL. Get some solid talent up front and the DB’s benefit.

The manager of a collective is sort of like a general manager for a professional team but they have to oversea all sports…
Very convoluted.

Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9431 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 2:42 pm to
There’s no legitimate way to truly rank these because who reports to who?

Who’s to say people aren’t still doing under the table deals?
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8611 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:07 pm to
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NIL is much bigger than just College Football.



Right. But football is one of the only sports that can fund themselves.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
58685 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:17 pm to
I posted this yesterday, will give a little insight!

Right now, the money folks are stuck. They give X amount of dollars. The part the AD’s don’t like. If they are giving to NIL, they are taking that money away from the athletic department. They are still giving the same total amount, just that some of it is going to NIL. More Athletic Departments around the US are going into the red. LSU has been very fortunate, they have managed well. One person took care of a buyout, didn’t cost LSU anything.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
3952 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:51 pm to
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Right now, the money folks are stuck. They give X amount of dollars. The part the AD’s don’t like. If they are giving to NIL, they are taking that money away from the athletic department. They are still giving the same total amount, just that some of it is going to NIL. More Athletic Departments around the US are going into the red. LSU has been very fortunate, they have managed well.

Well, getting payers paid was always going to be a zero-sum game. The money has to come from somewhere.

I‘m just laughing at the fact anyone believes the answer will be $20/month subscriptions from John Smiths & not the billions of dollars of revenue shared between TV / athletic departments / coaches.

Title IX & NIL together should put away any hope for above-board CFB. Either it will continue run on black markets just as it always did before… or the donation supply ultimately fails to support the sport & the academic institutions are eventually cut out to make room for revenue sharing, which makes the most sense.

Actual collegiate sports already caught the bullet, just gonna take it a while to bleed out.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 4:54 pm
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10439 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:48 am to
All other sports are dwarfed by football. Nothing else matters so much.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40775 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:09 pm to
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And LSU has a lot of fans who don't want to.


Why the f should we have to fund athletes? Whether LSU wins or not ultimately doesn't affect my life. I enjoy watching them play, and yes I enjoy winning. I dislike losing, but there ain't shite coming out of my bank account for that corrupt shite.
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