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Though LSU finished #1 in 1958, AP trophy went to Iowa...

Posted on 3/30/09 at 5:37 pm
Posted by LSUdvalley
AP
Member since Jan 2005
373 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 5:37 pm
Realizing the AP was the authoritative championship selector at the time, I'm not sure many realize that:

quote:

Iowa finished the year ranked #2 in the AP poll, behind 11–0 LSU, although that vote was taken before the bowl games. The Football Writers Association of America, arguably the most prestigious organization at the time to vote on a national champion after the bowls were played, gave their national championship trophy, the Grantland Rice Award, to Iowa.


The reason this is brought up now is mostly because I realized a lot of people are unaware of this. Though voted #1 prior to the bowls, they gave the NC trophy to Iowa.

Any thoughts on the '58 champion (mine's still biased of course ) and the champions selection process (old tymers)?
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25786 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 5:37 pm to
fricking bullshite!
Posted by 3HourTour
A whiskey barrel
Member since Mar 2006
21223 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 5:39 pm to
AP hates LSU
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 5:44 pm to
I have seen the 1958 AP trophy
Posted by athletemed
The Woodlands, Texas
Member since Oct 2007
5871 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 5:51 pm to
snoooooore.......
Posted by LSUdvalley
AP
Member since Jan 2005
373 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 5:58 pm to
great contributions

suppose i should have known better...
Posted by parrotdr
Cesspool of Rationalization
Member since Oct 2003
7507 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 6:01 pm to
Nope, AP went to LSU--so did UPI and several other associations we would not recognize today.

Iowa, who was only 8-1-1, got the nod from the FWAA-the Football Writers' Assn. of America.
Posted by Rougarou4lsu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2003
3079 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 6:05 pm to
This is the South Sur. When the legend becomes fact, you print the legend.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27874 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 6:12 pm to
1) please tell me you didnt use the user edited Wikipedia as your source?

2) you do realize AP and the football writers are 2 completely different organizations, and each awarded their own trophy in 1958?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

The reason this is brought up now is mostly because I realized a lot of people are unaware of this.


With all due respect, STFU and GTFO.





Posted by MikeDTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2004
2544 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 6:16 pm to
The FWAA, who did award their trophy to 8-1-1 Iowa for 1958, is not the Associated Press. Google could clear that up pretty quickly for you...
Posted by CalcoTiger
California
Member since Aug 2005
815 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 6:53 pm to
check your facts before posting this kind of crap geez

Bama sites probably have 10 threads on this by now.
Posted by holdthttiger
Member since Aug 2008
850 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 7:09 pm to
Why dont we claim more NCs...such as 1908?






Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

check your facts before posting this kind of crap geez

Bama sites probably have 10 threads on this by now.


Sup Calco?
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20855 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 8:05 pm to
I never understood why we don't claim all the championships, such as 1908, 1936, 1937, etc. You know other schools would...
Posted by Kelvinator
Florida
Member since Jan 2005
555 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 8:05 pm to
Another confused fan...
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 8:58 pm to
As stated, LSU did indeed win the AP AND UPI polls in 1958. 2007 was LSU's first FWAA title.Whereas the FWAA did have more validity in the 50's and 60's than it does now,it was still thought of as small potatoes back then.

FWAA also awarded its 1961 title to Ohio State instead of Alabama,who won the AP and UPI titles. Both LSU and Alabama were unbeaten and united those years and won its bowl even though the titles were awarded ahead of the bowls. Iowa had a tie and loss,while Ohio State had a tie and declined a bid to the Rose Bowl.

Not awarding LSU and Alabama its titles in '58 and '61 really cheapened the FWAA titles.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89831 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Though LSU finished #1 in 1958, AP trophy went to Iowa...



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