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Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Yep. Because if we lose, we'll likely suck really bad. No coach will want to come to a program that wasn't good when he was a kid.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:03 pm to mattz1122
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No coach will want to come to a program that wasn't good when he was a kid.
okay, i'm done here
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:05 pm to Dudebro2
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I don't give a shite about records I give a shite about titles,
for all i care we could go 8-5, 8-5 and then 13-1 with a sec title and possibly a NC and i would be fine. I would be fine with that reoccuring every 3 years. I could not care less about records. MILES IS PAID TO WIN HARDWARE!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:07 pm to mattz1122
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We should be thrilled to have a winning season every year. That didn't happen in the past.
What? Mac may have had his shortcomings and he definitely had the Bear as his Achilles Heel, but he only had like one losing season in 20 years.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:10 pm to mattz1122
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Yep. Because if we lose, we'll likely suck really bad. No coach will want to come to a program that wasn't good when he was a kid.
no coach will come if a winning coach was fired!
signed,
Mark Richt (replaced a winner in Donnan)
Urban Meyer (replaced a winner in zook)
Jim Tressel (replaced a winner in Cooper)
Nick Saban replaced a 26-23 mike shula which is a winning record last i checked)
Jimbo Fisher replaced a winner in bowden
and on and on and on
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:13 pm to NorthTiger
quote:Some teams have nothing else to play for on their schedule. Even after going 15-0 they ask themselves "What can we do to be better?" In the end, its about being the best you can be, nothing else.
I once heard a fan in the Superdome say this after his high school won the state title with a perfect 15-0 record, "Yeah, we won another title and all but we could have beaten some of the teams we did by larger margins."
But go ahead and look at games like Kent State and Furman and say "a win is a win" if that makes you happy.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:18 pm to Fat Bastard
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MILES IS PAID TO WIN HARDWARE!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to see someone has a brain!!!!
I could expound on it, but the sunshine pumpers will never see the expectations to perform and the correlation when you are one of the top 5 highest paid in your profession.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:20 pm to Dudebro2
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quote:
MILES IS PAID TO WIN HARDWARE!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to see someone has a brain!!!!
I could expound on it, but the sunshine pumpers will never see the expectations to perform and the correlation when you are one of the top 5 highest paid in your profession.
Mac didn't even make 6 figures until his last couple of years.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:21 pm to Fat Bastard
quote:Holy shite. For one thing, Miles isn't some barely-over .500 coach like Zook and Shula, he's ahead of Richt, even with/maybe slightly ahead of Tressel and Meyer. Only Saban is clearly better, and that's if you only look at Saban at Bama.
no coach will come if a winning coach was fired!
signed,
Mark Richt (replaced a winner in Donnan)
Urban Meyer (replaced a winner in zook)
Jim Tressel (replaced a winner in Cooper)
Nick Saban replaced a 26-23 mike shula which is a winning record last i checked)
and on and on and on
What you suggest is more along the lines of what happened at Nebraska; forcing Solich out because he wasn't keeping pace with fans' expectations. We saw what happened there.
Try to consider the rationale Miles had in refusing to consider the Michigan job in '07:
he's got something good going on here (LSU) now, he's not gonna make a jump to another program that isn't realistically any higher than where he is now. Particularly when the administration at the other place went full retard and tore down something that was already successful, simply because they couldn't handle their rival's (Ohio St) success.
You might find a lot of your wishlist in Miles replacements share that same mindset.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:21 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Somebody doesn't remember the 1990s.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:22 pm to mattz1122
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Somebody doesn't remember the 1990s.
Yes. You speak like a complete awful aberration was "the rule."
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:22 pm to Dudebro2
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Nice to see someone has a brain!!!!
Backatcha brother!
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:23 pm to NorthTiger
I think for the majority of us (season ticket holders or not) it is not so much if we lose a game as underdog it is more that we expect for our big $ and highly paid leader a team that is not sometimes in lackadaisical mode and mental lapses (penalties, questionable play selection) ie. OM, Furman, Clemson, Bama 12, 2nd half Bama 13 (I was there btw),01/09/12, etc. Yes, I go way back to Coach Mac days and even participated in HMP rally as a student although then was just for fun of it but this now comes with the territory of big time college FB!
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:25 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Mac didn't even make 6 figures until his last couple of years
What does that have to do with what Miles is being paid now and what should be expected of him?
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:25 pm to Scoob
oh and now Meyer has replaced yet another winner at bucknut state. Meyer has replaced tressel now. meyer will most probably win a NC there as well as tressel did.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:26 pm to Dudebro2
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What does that have to do with what Miles is being paid now and what should be expected of him?
nothing.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:26 pm to Dudebro2
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What does that have to do with what Miles is being paid now and what should be expected of him?
Expectations, for better or worse.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:30 pm to Fat Bastard
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Backatcha brother!
In all reality all coaches are paid to win hardware, but when you are one of the top 5 highest paid in your profession you are EXPECTED to win hardware. And when expectations are not being met then something has got to change whether it is the pay or the person.
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:32 pm to Fat Bastard
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for all i care we could go 8-5, 8-5 and then 13-1 with a sec title and possibly a NC and i would be fine. I would be fine with that reoccuring every 3 years. I could not care less about records. MILES IS PAID TO WIN HARDWARE!!!!!!!!!!
Said the exact same thing in a thread few months back.....9-3 or 8-4 and being competitive EVERY GAME ALL GAME is ok during rebuilding years with an occasional SEC/NC title thrown in every 3/4 years. But 10-3, 11-2....mediocre bowl...losing to hated (WEST) rivals, laying down in games, and always being the bridesmaid is agonizing for most folks and unacceptable for a coach commanding CLMs salary. If that expectation is unreasonable then fk it. It's the lay of the land since 07.
I realize the bar has been set incredibly high and I also realize that if Bama wasnt in the midst of this insane frickin run, CLMs shortcomings would be easier to stomach....but unfortunately this is the reality.
I also realize that losses are part of the game and I don't mind losing to a better team when we play hard and simply get beat....not give it away.
Way toooooooo many hinky losses lately have undermined Les's credibility with a large segment of the fan base.
Nothing short of another NC is going to restore the faith...and even then he will still have his detractors.
CLM now finds himself in a no-win situation.
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