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re: This is why we need playoff

Posted on 10/22/13 at 12:06 am to
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 12:06 am to
100% agree and this is one of the main problems.

The bowl system is garbage. We have to go undefeated or only lose 1 game to even have a chance then try and get into a championship game based on other people's opinions?

frick that.

Even if you don't go to the natty but go to a BCS Bowl and win, what does that even mean? What have you won?

The bowl system is garbage and is a hinderence to the awesome sport of college football.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 12:11 am to
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4 team isn't good enough for you


This system is gonna be terrible, but at least it's a step in the right direction, which is huge.

The selection committee is gonna cause more drama than the BCS ever did.

Hopefully we get to 8 in the not too distant future, then we will have an actual post season. Like all other sports
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 12:22 am to
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Bitching the first time LSU misses it


bullshite, we don't get in then we don't get in.

But at least we had a chance to get in by our play on the field, and not by the opinions of others like this bullshite BCS system we have or this 4 man playoff decided by a COMMITEE we have coming up.

at least they are changing though next year, and that is the first step.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 12:36 am to
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LSU is not entitled to a national championship shot no matter what. You want meaningful late season games don't lose to mediocre Ole Miss.

BS, teams like SC or even Georgia are capable of beating anybody at the end. This is about who is the best at the end of season not who is ranked higher i n pre-season or loses a couple in mid-season. Why should only 2 teams have a chance? How can you exclude any of these teams? Oregon, Fla State, Ohio State, Alabama? They don't play the same schedule,therefore, why any of them should be excluded because they lost to another team?
Posted by CalTiger53
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 12:47 am to
For any team to claim they are the national champions they must defeat at least 4 teams that are ranked in top 10 at the end of regular season. With current system a team can end up in the NC game without defeating even one top 10 team (Alabama is a good example this year). A 16 team playoff system will ensure that the NC team has defeated at least 4 teams that are in top 16 at the end of season.
This post was edited on 10/22/13 at 1:12 am
Posted by Victry4LSU
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 12:54 am to
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So 4 teams isn't good enough for you? How about 65?
How bout 16?
Posted by TheBuescherMan
Abu Dhabi
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 1:16 am to
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Meaningless regular season is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Teams would be playing for home field advantage and seeding. Why isn't the nfl regular season meaningless?



Yup. And college football wouldn't have the drop-off the NFL has at the end of the year due to polling determining seeding.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 1:22 am to
People saying a playoff makes the regular season worthless is the worst argument in sports. Absolutely retarded.
Posted by Victry4LSU
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 1:25 am to
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does a playoff system really make you national champion?....or would you be a "tournament champion?".....
Easily National Champions....Allow regular season to qualify these (16) teams -> (5) BCS Conf Champs, (6) Non BCS Conf Champs, and (5) at large. Any team that can go 4-0 from this 16 team pool including 11 conference champions, deserves the NC. For instance, a 10-2 Sun Belt champ, then goes 4-0 in the 16 teams "Field of Qualifiers" then they are now 14-2 and EASILY the TRUE National Champion. Apply any other of the 15 teams in the example above and you get the same results....a deserving NC.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 1:52 am to
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People saying a playoff makes the regular season worthless is the worst argument in sports. Absolutely retarded

In a 16 team playoff system every game counts to the end. Even how you play against Furman could impact on your inclusion in the playoff system. The best thing about is you don't even know who the 16 teams are until every team has played their last game. Think what happens in basketball and the so called bubble teams.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 1:59 am to
I really soured on the BCS when the NC went to a division runner-up that got there with a media blitz.

4 teams is probably sufficient, but 6 or 8 would be good too. I'd rather an undeserving team be included than a deserving team left out.

And I never want to see it watered down like basketball. Yes, that regular season is almost meaningless.
Posted by BayouBndt
Shreveport
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 2:04 am to
Wimners of all confences should be in the playoff! Still makes the season worth it amd gives all conferences a chance if they play well!
Posted by CalTiger53
California
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 2:05 am to
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And I never want to see it watered down like basketball. Yes, that regular season is almost meaningless.

If you lose a couple of games (even early) the current regular season is meaningless even if you are the best team at the end of season.
Posted by Victry4LSU
Member since Jun 2006
534 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 2:22 am to
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Yeah let's turn college football into college basketball, a gigantic meaningless regular season followed by 1 big single elimination tournament.

Everybody who wants a 16 team playoff, the first year LSU finishes 17 you'll be bitching it's not 32.

If you can't finish in the top 4 you ain't F'ING national champions.
You really think that 120 teams that plays 90-100% of total games against conf and regional programs the best gauge to allow only 0.03 of the total 120 teams involved with a resume of only conference and regional opponents with bias humans as the ones determining which 0.03 of total teams a shot at the NC..
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:17 am to
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If you can't finish in the top 4 you ain't F'ING national champions.


This.

Anyone who understands college football realizes that there are only a few teams each year that can truly lay claim to be in the hunt for the national championship by the season's end.

If a team finishes the season with 2 or 3 losses, well gee, It's a pretty safe assumption that they aren't the best in the country.

2007 LSU was an anomaly FWIW.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:22 am to
So you believe playoffs in the nfl, cbb, and mlb hurt those sports and would be in favor of march madness just having a final 4?
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:26 am to
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So you believe playoffs in the nfl, cbb, and mlb hurt those sports and would be in favor of march madness just having a final 4?


College football is a much different animal than those sports.

Parity has definitely increased in college football, but it is nowhere near the level of parity that exists in the NFL or MLB or in a small team sport like CBB.


Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:35 am to
I just think that people who are anti playoff have been convinced by the media that it hurts the reg season, is too many games, etc.

We love the playoffs in every other sport but have been conditioned to think its bad for the best sport to have one. The powers that be (bowls & college presidents) are full of shite. Now they play 12 reg season games, conf championship game, and a bowl game. So playing extra games was never a concern for players safety it is all about money. Do away with conf championships and go back to a 10 or 11 game reg season with playoffs.

A 16 team cfb playoff would be the the most exciting playoff in sports.

4 teams playing at neutral sites is a joke.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:05 am to
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16 is the best.



meh, but i could live with it. We definitely need at least 8. That is the magic number. you could have a few two loss teams in that number.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:07 am to
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The selection committee is gonna cause more drama than the BCS ever did.



yeppers

quote:

Hopefully we get to 8 in the not too distant future, then we will have an actual post season. Like all other sports



agreed
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