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The state of the Basketball program
Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:34 am
Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:34 am
I posted this in another thread, but I thought some more might like to read it
Louisiana had no talent last year. Trent made a decision to keep his scholarships instead of giving them to undeserving players. By the looks of his next recruiting class, he was right.
there was not 1 player from LA in the top 150 last year.
This year Louisiana has 3, with LSU getting the best one (#71 player in the country). It takes time to develop relationships with coaches and players, especially since a lot of these kids are being recruited since freshman year.
Right now, we are getting the #71, #93, and #144 ranked recruits for next season. Add in a commit from the #148 player and that is damn good. We also get Malcom White from Ole Miss who will be an instant starter. So, we have the #20 class in the country + Malcom White. That is a huge step in the right direction. We need to get 4 year players who will bring the program stability, and then go after the 1 and done players who can bring us to the top 10 level
LINK
our recruiting class is great, and trent has already shown that he wins with talent
two 4 stars and 3 three stars is great for LSU.
Trent made the right decision in holding the scholarships. This year sucks, we knew that going in. I don't understand why people are bitching about something that we understood during the offseason. LSU will be fine, lets not sink the ship before it gets its sails up
Louisiana had no talent last year. Trent made a decision to keep his scholarships instead of giving them to undeserving players. By the looks of his next recruiting class, he was right.
there was not 1 player from LA in the top 150 last year.
This year Louisiana has 3, with LSU getting the best one (#71 player in the country). It takes time to develop relationships with coaches and players, especially since a lot of these kids are being recruited since freshman year.
Right now, we are getting the #71, #93, and #144 ranked recruits for next season. Add in a commit from the #148 player and that is damn good. We also get Malcom White from Ole Miss who will be an instant starter. So, we have the #20 class in the country + Malcom White. That is a huge step in the right direction. We need to get 4 year players who will bring the program stability, and then go after the 1 and done players who can bring us to the top 10 level
LINK
our recruiting class is great, and trent has already shown that he wins with talent
two 4 stars and 3 three stars is great for LSU.
Trent made the right decision in holding the scholarships. This year sucks, we knew that going in. I don't understand why people are bitching about something that we understood during the offseason. LSU will be fine, lets not sink the ship before it gets its sails up
This post was edited on 2/12/10 at 1:21 pm
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Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:40 am to TigerBait1127
I think everyone knew this year would suck. Next year will be Trents year. Everyone will forget this one.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:43 am to TigerBait1127
I agree with you. Remember Trent called a special press conference last year and told us it was going to be bad this year.
we still need two more recruiting classes before being competitive.
we still need two more recruiting classes before being competitive.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:13 am to TigerBait1127
I have posted this before, but it is worth repeating:
Trent Johnson's first three years at LSU, inlcuding next year, is likely the worst three-year period for talent in Louisiana in the past 20-plus years.
No 5-stars at all in that period. No 4-stars last year and likely no 4-stars next year. It is a high probability that Matt Derenbecker will be the highest rated Louisiana recruit in a 3-year period. I like Matt and think he will be a good player, but that is bad compared to the talent Louisiana has historically put out: Stromile, Glen Davis, Bass, Augustine, Monroe, Tasmin, etc.
Trent Johnson's first three years at LSU, inlcuding next year, is likely the worst three-year period for talent in Louisiana in the past 20-plus years.
No 5-stars at all in that period. No 4-stars last year and likely no 4-stars next year. It is a high probability that Matt Derenbecker will be the highest rated Louisiana recruit in a 3-year period. I like Matt and think he will be a good player, but that is bad compared to the talent Louisiana has historically put out: Stromile, Glen Davis, Bass, Augustine, Monroe, Tasmin, etc.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:14 am to TigerBait1127
quote:What link? Or was this from a copy/paste?
LINK
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:14 am to tiger41
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Trent called a special press conference last year and told us it was going to be bad this year
i can guarantee you he did not
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:17 am to Elleshoe
That was just a standard end-of-the-year wrap up press conference. He made a few comments about lowering expectations for this year. He made a few joking comments about fans turning on him this year. He was right, and that's not a joke.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:30 am to TigerBait1127
quote:
Trent made the right decision in holding the scholarships. This year sucks, we knew that going in. I don't understand why people are bitching about something that we understood during the offseason. LSU will be fine, lets not sink the ship before it gets its sails up
Trent Johnson knows exactly what is needed to make LSU a consistant contender for SEC and national honors. This year has been very, very painful because TJ is basically rebuilding from scratch. We will be better every year from this point on. book it.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:54 am to byubengalboy
Agreed we will be better, but next year will not be "Trent's year". LSU is at least two years away from being able to step on the court with anybody. He is truly rebuilding this team, and there are going to be no quick fixes, including one and done players. Get use to it.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 11:13 am to tandyman
It's basketball you can turn a program around alot faster than Football.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 11:18 am to byubengalboy
TJ is basically rebuilding from scratch. We will be better every year from this point on. book it.
Scratch is not having Taz, storm, and bo.
Scratch is not having Taz, storm, and bo.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 11:25 am to TigerBait1127
Just curious, who are the other two Louisiana top 150 players, what was their rank in the top 150, and where did they sign?
Posted on 2/12/10 at 11:57 am to LSUBEATLES
I agree with your post, we have to get Louisiana talent first. That said, there are basketball players in the other 49 states. Harder to get, but it can be done. Dale Brown did it.
I think this year will just be a terrible memory in the long run. Hoping so anyway.
I think this year will just be a terrible memory in the long run. Hoping so anyway.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 1:35 pm to LSUBEATLES
quote:
Just curious, who are the other two Louisiana top 150 players, what was their rank in the top 150, and where did they sign?
there's actually 3 players are
#97 Shavon Coleman (6-5, 185lb Forward and he is going to ULM. He wasn't offered by anybody else from what I can tell.
#120 Langston Galloway (6-3, 185 SG). Going to St. Joseph's. We recruited him, committed to SJ on 6/23/09.
#127 Brian Williams (6-5 190lb SF from Glen Oaks). Going to OSU. I'm sure he was recruited by Butch.
It would be nice to get the last 2, but Trent also needs time to establish himself in Louisiana.
We have 5 guys coming in this year to add to Garret Green, Chris Bass, Malcom White, Spencer, Dotson, Ludwig, Harris, and Storm Warren. We don't have room for anybody else from my understanding.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 1:35 pm to tiger81
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That said, there are basketball players in the other 49 states. Harder to get, but it can be done. Dale Brown did it.
and TJ is doing it. 4/5 guys from the 2010 class are from out of state
Posted on 2/12/10 at 3:11 pm to cjf33
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Scratch is not having Taz, storm, and bo.
no, it is not scratch...but it is 'basically' scratch when applied to competitiveness. last time I looked it took five 'basketball' players to field a team and two, three or four good reserves to be competitive. you mentioned three and I will throw in Dotson. when TJ finally gets the required number of 'basketball' bodies on roster we will be competitive again. next season we will turn the corner with a very solid freshman class led by Stringer.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 5:34 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
Right now, we are getting the #71, #93, and #144 ranked recruits for next season. Add in a commit from the #148 player and that is damn good
fyi recent recruits who were ranked by rivals
brandon bass #11
anthony randolph #12
glen davis #13
magnum rolle #18
tasmin mitchell #20
regie koundjia #22
tack minor #38
aaron dotson #89
delwayn graham #119
storm warren #129
darnell lazare #134
hope these guys have more of an impact tha #89 dotson is having
This post was edited on 2/12/10 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 2/12/10 at 5:40 pm to AreJay
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magnum rolle #18
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regie koundjia #22
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tack minor #38
all ran off. We can lose scholarships if we run players off now
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hope these guys have more of an impact tha #89 dotson is having
didn't he have a major knee injury? Either way, depth is a good thing.
Posted on 2/13/10 at 1:59 am to TigerBait1127
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magnum rolle #18
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regie koundjia #22
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tack minor #38
all ran off.
None of these players were run off. Magnum Rolle somehow got the notion he should have been allowed to play like Kevin Durant. Only problem is he doesn't have Durant's skill set. Nikita Johnson got into his head and made him believe he was underutilized and then convinced Rolle to folow him to La. Tech. He is having a good senior season but is not playing like Durant even in a weaker conference.
Regis Koundjia never became the player he was expected to be. He was athletic, but did not have a consistent shot. Instead of staying to work on his overall game he transferred to Georg Washington and essentially dupliated his LSU play there.
Tac Minor was dismissed from school for academic improprieties.
Essentially we had two foreign born players with very little experience at American basketball who did not have a clue as to their true level of play but were manipulataed by others. The other did not accept personal responsibility for his academic progress. He should have followed the examples of GArret Temple, Brandon Bass and Darnell Lazare among others.
Posted on 2/13/10 at 8:37 am to TigerBait1127
right direction yes---nest year they still struggle . 2 years from now much better
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