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The SEC is a shell of it's former self
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:44 am
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Alabama has simply flattened the league again. It's them and everyone else. It's so sad to see this program pick itself up from the ashes to become elite and for our administration to simply let it crumble again by a series of terrible decisions. We are well on our way to becoming a laughing stock of the league.
Oh, we certainly do.
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Auburn, which was supposed to be Alabama's biggest challenger in the SEC West, lost to Clemson two weeks ago and needed a fourth-quarter touchdown to pull away from FCS foe Mercer on Saturday.
LSU, which fired former coach Les Miles because he didn't beat the Crimson Tide enough, lost its first SEC game this season under coach Ed Orgeron by 30 points.
And Florida and Tennessee, which combined for three field goals in the first three quarters at the Swamp on Saturday, finally surrendered to the law of averages and at least put a dramatic ending on what was largely an unwatchable rivalry game.
Three weeks into the 2017 season, and as SEC play hits full stride this coming weekend, the gap between the No. 1 Crimson Tide and the rest of the league is just as wide, if not wider, than ever before.
Alabama has simply flattened the league again. It's them and everyone else. It's so sad to see this program pick itself up from the ashes to become elite and for our administration to simply let it crumble again by a series of terrible decisions. We are well on our way to becoming a laughing stock of the league.
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After firing Miles, who won 77 percent of his games and guided the Tigers to two SEC titles and the 2007 national championship, LSU hired his defensive line coach, Orgeron, who won 29 percent of his games as Ole Miss head coach in three seasons from 2005 to 2007.
With the highest-paid coordinator duo in FBS (defensive coordinator Dave Aranda makes $1.8 million and offensive coordinator Matt Canada is paid $1.5 million annually) and Heisman Trophy contender Derrius Guice coming back, the Tigers were finally supposed to challenge Alabama in the SEC West.
In Orgeron's first big road test, however, the No. 12 Tigers lost at Mississippi State 37-7 on Saturday night, their worst defeat in the 111-game series. Maybe Miles didn't beat Alabama enough, but his teams never lost to the Bulldogs by 30 points. In fact, LSU had won 23 of the 25 previous meetings, and Miles' only loss was a 34-29 defeat in 2014, when current Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott accounted for three touchdowns.
"Put it on me," Orgeron said after the humbling defeat. "Maybe we're not as good as we thought we were."
Oh, we certainly do.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:47 am
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:47 am to tlsu15
Saban has destroyed LSU and the SEC.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:47 am to tlsu15
Well hasn't that been the goal of the SEC offices for nearly a decade now?
Between the Mulligan, "bridge schedules", lopsided officiating, the recruiting advantage and the constant positive media coverage, this is EXACTLY what the SEC wanted.
It is only going to get worse before it gets better.
It is definitely a diluted product, for sure. Not just diluted, but completely predictable.
Between the Mulligan, "bridge schedules", lopsided officiating, the recruiting advantage and the constant positive media coverage, this is EXACTLY what the SEC wanted.
It is only going to get worse before it gets better.
It is definitely a diluted product, for sure. Not just diluted, but completely predictable.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:47 am to tlsu15
We were flat out dominated. Still hard to believe
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:48 am to Lakeboy7
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Saban has destroyed LSU and the SEC.
LSU has destroyed itself.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:48 am to tlsu15
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Alabama has simply flattened the league again. It's them and everyone else. It's so sad to see this program pick itself up from the ashes to become elite and for our administration to simply let it crumble again by a series of terrible decisions.
Look at the coaches. Urban Meyer gone. Mark Richt gone. Gary Pinkel gone. Steve Spurrier gone. Hugh Freeze gone. Les Miles gone. James Franklin gone. Cam Newton gone.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:48 am to tlsu15
Absolutely a shell. Its Bama and the merry bunch of runts now. Think of the Head Coaching talent that has left willingly or been fired since Saban came to the SEC (I'm sure I'm missing some):
Meyer
Spurrier
Richt
Fulmer
Tuberville
Miles
Petrino
Pinkel
Franklin
Each one of the above coaches who vacated those positions were replaced with far subpar replacements. The coaching talent drain in the SEC has been nothing short of amazing.
Meyer
Spurrier
Richt
Fulmer
Tuberville
Miles
Petrino
Pinkel
Franklin
Each one of the above coaches who vacated those positions were replaced with far subpar replacements. The coaching talent drain in the SEC has been nothing short of amazing.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:49 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Well hasn't that been the goal of the SEC offices for nearly a decade now?
They have certainly done what they can to make it easier on the Crimson Tide, but nobody forced LSU's hand in this situation.
Also, the East has become a freakin joke. A&M would have a serious shot of winning that division this year.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:49 am to tlsu15
Alabama doesn't have a damn thing to do with UT, UF or LSU. maybe Auburn but they recruit other states very heavily and always have.
just because these teams are not doing well does not mean the SEC is a "shell of it's former self". it is still the toughest conference to win in in the country. is Clemson killing the ACC? is Ohio State killing the big 10?
every damn year we have these "chicken little" threads whining about the demise of the SEC and this is along with the other conferences saying "the SEC is down". they have an agenda; what is your excuse?
just because these teams are not doing well does not mean the SEC is a "shell of it's former self". it is still the toughest conference to win in in the country. is Clemson killing the ACC? is Ohio State killing the big 10?
every damn year we have these "chicken little" threads whining about the demise of the SEC and this is along with the other conferences saying "the SEC is down". they have an agenda; what is your excuse?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:52 am to LSU GrandDad
I've posted several times in offseason, this will be the least talented the SEC has been in some time and that includes Bama. That Bama D is not the scary defense we saw last year and their injuries are mounting as well.
The issue with LSU is losing so much underclassmen talent to draft whether they are ready or not. It's finally caught up to LSU with normal attrition and the fact that Bama comes and gets 2/3 LA players every year. It speaks volumes to Mullen's recruiting evaluations and they are keeping players 4 years. Mullen is as dirty as Freeze though.
The issue with LSU is losing so much underclassmen talent to draft whether they are ready or not. It's finally caught up to LSU with normal attrition and the fact that Bama comes and gets 2/3 LA players every year. It speaks volumes to Mullen's recruiting evaluations and they are keeping players 4 years. Mullen is as dirty as Freeze though.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:53 am to tlsu15
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They have certainly done what they can to make it easier on the Crimson Tide
And always will....
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but nobody forced LSU's hand in this situation.
Well, nobody forced LSU to hire Coach Zero, that's for sure.
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Also, the East has become a freakin joke
By design.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:53 am to LSU GrandDad
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Alabama doesn't have a damn thing to do with UT, UF or LSU
Except that they beat them every single year. You don't think LSU would have a few more SEC championships if Bama wasn't a dynasty? You don't think it hurts our recruiting to go to the Texas or Music City bowl every year instead of being in the Sugar or Playoffs?
Alabama has knocked every other school down a peg and they fired their coaches because of it. The replacements have not been able to challenge Saban yet. That's a fact.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:55 am to nicholastiger
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The issue with LSU is losing so much underclassmen talent to draft whether they are ready or not. It's finally caught up to LSU with normal attrition
It caught up to us in 2014 when we started freshman at every single skill position. There's no excuse now not to have made adjustments to account for this.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:56 am to nicholastiger
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Mullen is as dirty as Freeze though.
But this is also part of the problem....
EVERY program in the P5 is dirty to some extent.
However, in the SEC, the moment you threaten the team on top, you are investigated and put on probation. Freeze is the most recent example. Beat Bama twice? LOL. Yeah right. That won't happen again. BAM!
The same cat at Yahoo that took down Reggie Bush and USC finds the goods on the Tide? Well we will just sweep that under the rug.
The SEC has done it to itself by design.
Pay attention and know what you are watching.
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