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The good news about the passing game
Posted on 10/4/15 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 10/4/15 at 1:54 pm
From what I saw yesterday, it is clear to me that the STAFF understands perfectly that LF7 cannot defeat the entire SEC. The offense will be required to move the ball including throwing when everyone on the field, sidelines and in the stands knows that BH must throw the ball.
For example, third and long with LSU deep in its own end very late in the game and down by one score. He will have to throw the ball.
I saw him make some good decisions, but some were a tad late and some throws less than ideal. That said, the so-called receiving corps appears to be trying the catch the ball with artificial hands. Further, they do not seem to be especially interested in actually fighting to beat the defender for the ball.
I am sure some of this is attributable to contempt of and lack of respect for the opponent. I hold CLM somewhat culpable for this attitude. It appears he has sent notice to the stone-handed receivers. As someone here has said, his public words were just the tip of an iceberg of displeasure.
For example, third and long with LSU deep in its own end very late in the game and down by one score. He will have to throw the ball.
I saw him make some good decisions, but some were a tad late and some throws less than ideal. That said, the so-called receiving corps appears to be trying the catch the ball with artificial hands. Further, they do not seem to be especially interested in actually fighting to beat the defender for the ball.
I am sure some of this is attributable to contempt of and lack of respect for the opponent. I hold CLM somewhat culpable for this attitude. It appears he has sent notice to the stone-handed receivers. As someone here has said, his public words were just the tip of an iceberg of displeasure.
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 2:00 pm to White Tiger
But shouldn't we have been trying to establish a passing game before now? Getting the WR's game time reps?
Posted on 10/4/15 at 2:07 pm to Ritual76
No question in my mind, but at times it seems that CLM is allergic to passing. Has had one good QB in 10 years.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 4:21 pm to White Tiger
Without a passing game, this team stands little chance of going anywhere in the SEC.
It would be such a shame to squander LF7 because this team cannot field a credible QB. If the passing game can develop then the sky is the limit for the offense. The receivers are not what we expected.
As much as the passing game is shaky, the defense and not-so-special teams are also iffy if you ask me. We will find out soon enough.
It would be such a shame to squander LF7 because this team cannot field a credible QB. If the passing game can develop then the sky is the limit for the offense. The receivers are not what we expected.
As much as the passing game is shaky, the defense and not-so-special teams are also iffy if you ask me. We will find out soon enough.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 4:28 pm to White Tiger
I don't think you take shots with Brandon on the road at MSU and I thought they gave him some opportunities against Auburn and delivered nicely.
But, the past two games haven't done much good for his confidence. Let's just hope a lot of the work Cam has done with him is mental, which I think it has.
I think if Dural catches that ball in the redzone, and Urkel catches the TD, then everyone here is singing a different tune today.
But, the past two games haven't done much good for his confidence. Let's just hope a lot of the work Cam has done with him is mental, which I think it has.
I think if Dural catches that ball in the redzone, and Urkel catches the TD, then everyone here is singing a different tune today.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 4:33 pm to tFearIsReal
I agree with that. They are giving him chances, but for whatever reason they shut it down in the 2nd half. Frankly, I do not think this team has played so much like a top 10 squad, let alone top 5. They really need to straighten out the passing in SC.
UF looks like world beaters after Saturday.
UF looks like world beaters after Saturday.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 4:34 pm to White Tiger
How can they ever get comfortable? Receivers will drop passes in all levels, but if you have a set number of pass plays a game (seems to be ~15 for LSU) then its hard to really redeem yourself.
LSU's offense ruins QB's and passing games. Plain and simple. The Power I is a waste of space in the playbook.
Fournette could run in literally any offense. Do you ever wonder why all these great receiving TE's LSU recruits don't ever see the field?
Jeter plays more than any TE on our roster, and after that its Dillon Gordon who is likely to become a Guard in the NFL.
Les simply thinks he found a loophole in the system to play more offensive linemen for his stupid fricking mud frick slop offense. I can't stand it.
LSU's offense ruins QB's and passing games. Plain and simple. The Power I is a waste of space in the playbook.
Fournette could run in literally any offense. Do you ever wonder why all these great receiving TE's LSU recruits don't ever see the field?
Jeter plays more than any TE on our roster, and after that its Dillon Gordon who is likely to become a Guard in the NFL.
Les simply thinks he found a loophole in the system to play more offensive linemen for his stupid fricking mud frick slop offense. I can't stand it.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 4:37 pm to tiggerthetooth
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LSU's offense ruins QB's and passing games. Plain and simple. The Power I is a waste of space in the playbook.
This.
There's a good reason no other team even tries to run LSUs offense.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 5:13 pm to biglego
This is stupid. If you have an oline that excels at run blocking and struggles with pass protection, what offensive set would you find optimal?
So many dumbasses forget what the 2007 O, with a senior QB, and the 2013 O, with a talented senior QB, looked like. You can't implement concepts the players can grasp and execute.
So many dumbasses forget what the 2007 O, with a senior QB, and the 2013 O, with a talented senior QB, looked like. You can't implement concepts the players can grasp and execute.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 5:13 pm to Ritual76
I keep hearing this, but damn!!
All of yall are mad cuz we "struggled" with EMU. We struggled because we tried to throw a bunch and we didn't do a good job of catching the ball. Had we just run every damn play we likely would have won by a bunch more, but we worked on the passing.
Had we done that against MSU, based on what has been shown, we almost assuredly would have lost the game. Less so, but still possibly, to Syracuse.
You work on things in practice. You do what you need to do to win games during games, based on what you see in practice. We have done that part, as we are undefeated.
The pasimg game doesn't look great, but I think yall just saw why we haven't been doing so much of it. EMU was low risk, because even in a tightish game there was minimal risk of losing. Good chance to work on it, but did you really think we had this all-world passing game that the coaches just refused to use?
All of yall are mad cuz we "struggled" with EMU. We struggled because we tried to throw a bunch and we didn't do a good job of catching the ball. Had we just run every damn play we likely would have won by a bunch more, but we worked on the passing.
Had we done that against MSU, based on what has been shown, we almost assuredly would have lost the game. Less so, but still possibly, to Syracuse.
You work on things in practice. You do what you need to do to win games during games, based on what you see in practice. We have done that part, as we are undefeated.
The pasimg game doesn't look great, but I think yall just saw why we haven't been doing so much of it. EMU was low risk, because even in a tightish game there was minimal risk of losing. Good chance to work on it, but did you really think we had this all-world passing game that the coaches just refused to use?
Posted on 10/4/15 at 5:43 pm to White Tiger
LF7 should make passing the football easy breezy. Yet it's like wrestling a greased pig for us. It always looks like such a struggle.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 6:13 pm to Mohican
I agree. I do not understand this. With the defense being iffy, this team will need a balanced offense more than ever.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 6:19 pm to dale10
So you are defending running an offense that is so complex that only experienced senior QBs can execute it?
If only 2 QBs in 8 years cans run it, it should be trashed.
If only 2 QBs in 8 years cans run it, it should be trashed.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 6:19 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Les simply thinks he found a loophole in the system to play more offensive linemen for his stupid fricking mud frick slop offense. I can't stand it.
Then you should find something else to do with your time, why be miserable. I hear knitting, or learning to play the ukulele can be quite relaxing.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:01 pm to s0tiger
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So you are defending running an offense that is so complex that only experienced senior QBs can execute it?
No, I don't believe just because these players may not get it, that means it's complex. I'm saying the coaches see what they can execute every dam day. I doubt Les says " shite, we are awesome at the spread, but I rather not use it."
Posted on 10/5/15 at 7:34 pm to tiggerthetooth
The pro set power I is not an exclusive running offense. It may be based on a power running game, but the play pass is an essential piece. The STAFF is working on getting the play pass into, well, play. This will be a devastating addition to the offense if BH can pull the trigger (so far he has the look of doing so) and the receiver can...receive.
That said, he needs to throw some outs and over the middle etc, but with LF7, the play pass could spell devastation.
That said, he needs to throw some outs and over the middle etc, but with LF7, the play pass could spell devastation.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 8:03 pm to White Tiger
You cannot run a play action pass when your primary run play is the toss dive! There is simply NO play action off the toss dive! It's one of the reasons why I am completely befuddled as to why the toss dive is run 8-10 times per game.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 8:20 pm to phi1514
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You cannot run a play action pass when your primary run play is the toss dive! There is simply NO play action off the toss dive! It's one of the reasons why I am completely befuddled as to why the toss dive is run 8-10 times per game.
Idiot. Yes there is a way to run play action off the toss dive, and yes we have run play action off of it. Typical rantard.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 8:31 pm to White Tiger
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Has had one good QB in 10 years.
which one?
The one that went first overall, the one who's made $20 million playing in the NFL, or the one who started half dozen games as a rookie?
Posted on 10/5/15 at 8:45 pm to White Tiger
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UF looks like world beaters after Saturday.
Yeah - everyone was saying the same thing about Georgia and Ole Miss. Any given Saturday, fortunes can change. I think entirely too much is being made about the passing game. I have seen BH make some really nice throws and I have seen our WR and TE make some nice catches and yards after catch. Many of you will only be happy if we are throwing for 300 per game - that ain't gonna happen and it doesn't need to - not with the stable we have. LF7 is a major piece - but there are plenty of others who are contributing. We are not nearly as one dimensional as we were last year. And now we are even better and each game, we will get better. My one major concern is our Special Teams performance - that is glaring. With teams starting on their own 40 after every kick, we are doing our defense no favors. This is what needs to change far more than anything else on this team.
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