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re: Story on Chris Garrett on ESPN OTL
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:14 pm to bomber77
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:14 pm to bomber77
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There is no way to defend the colleges in this argument. Drop a kids scholorship before his senior year? bullshite
if you don't perform academically with an academic scholarship, you lose it
if you don't perform on the football field or on the practice field, why shouldn't you lose a football scholarship?
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Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:16 pm to baytiger
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baytiger
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if you don't perform on the football field or on the practice field, why shouldn't you lose a football scholarship?
So explain Richard Murphy.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:19 pm to D500MAG
there's no comparison between Murphy and Garrett
besides, I don't pretend to know everything that goes on in the football program, so why do you expect me to explain Miles' decisions?
I'm just saying players should be held accountable for their performance, just as any other student is.
besides, I don't pretend to know everything that goes on in the football program, so why do you expect me to explain Miles' decisions?
I'm just saying players should be held accountable for their performance, just as any other student is.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:21 pm to baytiger
Why are the schools allowed to drop scholarships with no restriction but the players can't leave without punishment?
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:25 pm to someoldhussy
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someoldhussy
I think that would help solve alot of it. If you are cut because of limits, then you should be able to go where you want (if they want you) without having to sit out a year.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:27 pm to D500MAG
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I think that would help solve alot of it. If you are cut because of limits, then you should be able to go where you want (if they want you) without having to sit out a year.
I'd agree with this
and it would help curb the cuts to some extent, too, as coaches would be more afraid of their competitors snatching up the cuts.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:29 pm to baytiger
If it's the player that wants to leave then the player should sit a year.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:31 pm to Weaver
quote:But with a job you can switch anytime to the highest bidder. In this case you can't change employers without sitting out a year. Even if you are terminated don't you still have to sit out a year?
A scholarship is like a job, you have to earn it. If you don't you get dropped.
So tell me again how is a scholarship like a job?
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:39 pm to Rockerbraves
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So tell me again how is a scholarship like a job?
Sometimes jobs do have probationary periods, and if you don't get it done during probation, then you're likely gone.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:41 pm to Rockerbraves
There are plenty of jobs with no-compete contracts that prevent you from taking a job with a same-market competitor for a year or more of time. It's not unusual.
What would prevent people from tampering with and recruiting from existing college rosters if transfer rules were not in place? What makes you think that's the better way to go?
What would prevent people from tampering with and recruiting from existing college rosters if transfer rules were not in place? What makes you think that's the better way to go?
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:44 pm to c on z
quote:Hard to believe you could enforce a no compete clause like what happens to kids like Chris.
Sometimes jobs do have probationary periods, and if you don't get it done during probation, then you're likely gone.
Imagine taking a job right out of college and getting fired during the probabtion period and then being told you can't work for anyone else for at least a year.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:49 pm to SpqrTiger
quote:What stops Universities now from over signing kids so they can't compete against them.
What would prevent people from tampering with and recruiting from existing college rosters if transfer rules were not in place? What makes you think that's the better way to go?
Say for example this kid from Redemptorist who has recently decomitted. What stops LSU right now from offering this kid just to make sure he doesn't end up playing for say Ole Miss?
Posted on 12/19/10 at 6:50 pm to baytiger
ESPN basically did the same story about a year ago when they talked about how John Calipari took apart the Kentucky basketball roster. ESPN pointed out that even Saban did it at Bama. This story is basically the kentucky story with LSU football players
Posted on 12/19/10 at 7:03 pm to nosaj56
In no way, shape, or form could Chris Garrett had been a "numbers crunch." I could see Ryan St. Julien or someone being a numbers crunch, but not the 3rd string RSFR QB on a team without any decent QB's.
This is a hit piece plain and simple. More and more, I hate ESPN, especially when they try to do hard news. Their Big Ten bias is so obvious.
Ridiculous.
This is a hit piece plain and simple. More and more, I hate ESPN, especially when they try to do hard news. Their Big Ten bias is so obvious.
Ridiculous.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 7:19 pm to AlaTiger
quote:You sound alot like Tiger Woods mother when she said her son has been treated unfairly.
This is a hit piece plain and simple. More and more, I hate ESPN, especially when they try to do hard news. Their Big Ten bias is so obvious.
"I am upset the way media treated him like he’s a criminal," she said. "He didn't kill anybody, he didn’t do anything illegal. They've being carrying on from Thanksgiving until now, that’s not right."
Posted on 12/19/10 at 7:39 pm to AlaTiger
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This is a hit piece plain and simple. More and more, I hate ESPN, especially when they try to do hard news. Their Big Ten bias is so obvious.
Yeah ESPN hates the SEC so much it calls itself the SEC Network. To show you how much it hates the SEC it puts a SEC game on prime time saturday night.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:08 pm to BilJ
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It was a hatchet piece done by someone to point out how evil the SEC and specifically les miles is
Posted on 12/19/10 at 9:25 pm to TheDoc
Just watched the piece. Interesting that they never made the connection between the Chris Garrett situation and the pathetic QB play at LSU the last 3 years. If LSU under Les was the "win at all costs" institution it was made out to be, does anybody think that a QB with any capability at all would have been singled out for such unfair treatment?
It's important to see the whole picture here. This was not a story unless a player who had a scholly taken away was willing to go on camera to tell their story. And of all of the legions of student-athletes who were the victims of such dastardly treatment by these evil coaches and institutions, only poor Chris Garrett went on camera.
It's important to see the whole picture here. This was not a story unless a player who had a scholly taken away was willing to go on camera to tell their story. And of all of the legions of student-athletes who were the victims of such dastardly treatment by these evil coaches and institutions, only poor Chris Garrett went on camera.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 4:47 am to bomber77
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There is no way to defend the colleges in this argument. Drop a kids scholorship before his senior year? bullshite
No way to defend it?
Do you feel like once a kid gets a scholly, he's free to work however hard or not hard he feels for the next 4 years?
I don't know, I wasn't there. But if the rumors about his work ethic are true, how is that not a good defense for dropping a kid before his senior year?
Posted on 12/20/10 at 6:23 am to nosaj56
"story is about the oversigning of college football players"
If they didn't interview Houston Nutt on this iossue, then the story was worthless.
If they didn't interview Houston Nutt on this iossue, then the story was worthless.
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