Stop with the Entitlement Nonsense

A lot of what you said was just wrong. There are many LSU fans that think all you have to do is demand winning championships...and anything less is unsatisfactory. Obviously, that's not the rational discussion going on.

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think the fans see a downward trend and don't want to go the way of Texas or FSU

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The question you need to ask yourself is has LSU's "program" (things that predict future sustainable success ex: fan base, recruiting success, etc.) been declining. I'd say it has not been declining at all. In fact, last year was a very good class. This year was looking to be stellar. The "program" was only getting stronger. There is no fire. Even Texas' talent was dropping off for several years.

Make no mistake. Those who are pushing for Miles' firing are doing so because they are tired of the results...not because they are making a rational decision about protecting the program.

Is LSU underperforming? Sure. Is it a "sinking ship". That's a ridiculous view of the state of the program.

I think it's more that LSU has incredible resources, and the results aren't matching up to them.

I am entitled.

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I think it's more that LSU has incredible resources, and the results aren't matching up to them.

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that's all this is about. if miles was competitive in the last 3 games it would be a different story. we are on a slow decline to being an 8 or 9 win team every year. anyone can win 8 games a year here. just need to go 8-5, like clockwork. i'd rather have a shot at winning the west and all that comes with that, than being a non-factor, which is what we are.

what if the new guy only wins 6 or 7 games? oh well, 8 or 9 wins in today's college football is also considered a non factor when a team plays 13 games.

miles is leading us down a road where a 10 win season is a an accomplishment. not the norm.

if miles wouldn't have hired chavis, he probably would have been fired after 2010 because he wouldn't have won more than 8 games.

we have a losing record against the sec west over the last 3 years. let that sink in.

You're supposed to accept your position in the CFB world and like it damnit. You know, like how people accept their positions in their careers and never change jobs to improve their career.

Name the realistic candidates. Also please state why LSU is materially better than the USCw job. Explain how LSU is going to avoid the same mistakes as Tennessee, Texas, Miami, etc.

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Name the realistic candidates. Also please state why LSU is materially better than the USCw job. Explain how LSU is going to avoid the same mistakes as Tennessee, Texas, Miami, etc.

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This is beside the point I'm making which is that it's not a matter of entitlement, but a matter of staying at an elite level, or rather, returning to an elite level.

We thought we had that this year with a Heisman frontrunner, an improved quarterback, and a decent defense (though we had and have a dumpster fire of a special teams unit). Then we ran into good competition and got exposed. And thinking back, we remembered "damn, we barely beat Syracuse with their walk on quarterback," and "we almost lost to Moo State... Again," maybe those wins weren't as impressive as we thought originally. And we can make excuses, sure. We are young. But while that's a good excuse, it's clear we aren't being well coached and, as Miles said himself, the team isn't being put into positions to win games. When you couple that with the 13-10 record over the last three years, with the inability to create a dynamic offense unless an NFL ready quarterback is at the helm (which has happened once since Flynn, except maybe Lee, who was benched for a player who couldn't use MS Paint), with the fact that Bielema, Saban, and Freeze out coached and flat out embarrassed Les on primetime, it's not a matter of entitlement to wonder whether Les can get it done anymore.

As for whether there is anyone else better: sure. The question is: can we get him? There are a lot of open spots this year; there are a lot exciting candidates.

And I counter your point about how we could go the way of Tennessee, Miami or Texas, with "we could go the way of Florida, or Miami under Coker, or Boise under Peterson." There are plenty of examples that go both ways. You just have to ask yourself as LSU whether the trend is a glitch in the market, or your head man just can't seem to get a read on the market. The more time goes by, the more the last few years are examined, the more it appears it's the latter.

And there's nothing wrong with that, frankly. Most head coaches don't stay in one place for over a decade. They shuffle around. It's the nature of things.

I say we build him a statue, shake his hand on his way out, and wish him well.

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I think it's more that LSU has incredible resources, and the results aren't matching up to them.

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That line of thinking is going just wonderfully for Texas, with arguably the best resources in the country.

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yes, and Texas waited too long to fire Mack Brown. Just goes to show that even a school with all the resources in the world can falter without the right coach.

And that's where we are now at LSU.