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re: Still no decision on Smart as of 7:25.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:50 am to Adam Banks
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:50 am to Adam Banks
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The ncaa has nothing to do with this. It’s all our own administration
LSU sat him pending an internal investigation which they invited the NCAA into
It’s plausible that after the meetings with Smart & his mom the NCAA was satisfied with what they heard while LSU continues to bully Smart to frick over Wade
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:52 am to purplengold1
But they’re working in multiple states guys!!!!
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 7:52 am
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:53 am to purplengold1
Dozens of workers couldn’t figure out what was meant by “we were never paid money”
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:54 am to purplengold1
He should play, but he won't
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:54 am to Upperdecker
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They brought the NCAA to town and now the NCAA wants proof that Smart is cleared. Which is not as easy as LSU clearing him. If they didn’t bring the NCAA here to ambush Will Wade, this wouldn’t have been an issue
This
The handling of this is grounds for firing. Total incompetence
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:55 am to LSUJML
Seriously. What would it take to have all the clowns who put the university in this position relieved of their duties?
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:56 am to purplengold1
Sad. Kid hasn't been found guilty of anything.
Most incompetent administration I've ever seen since becoming a Tiger fan since late 80s
Most incompetent administration I've ever seen since becoming a Tiger fan since late 80s
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:56 am to Topwater Trout
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Pretty sure we are waiting on the NCAA to clear him
Clear him for what? Per our administration he’s not suspended he’s being withheld due to “an abundance of caution”.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:59 am to Adam Banks
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The ncaa has nothing to do with this. It’s all our own administration
Except that the ncaa is involved with all of the interviews
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:01 am to b rod lsu
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The decision was made when they suspended him. No one has been working to try and get him reinstated - all of these reports since yesterday afternoon are a PR campaign. They've never given a shite about the student athlete, and they sure didn't start caring yesterday.
exactly
What do people think the LSU admin is doing?
They are asking Smart and his family to prove they didn't get benefits. If they say they didn't then where do you go from there? This is all a charade to buy time and appease the NCAA.
Smart should have never been suspended in the first place. Find evidence that impermissible benefits were given then remove his amateur status. Simple.
His situation is no different than Zion Williamson. His name was caught on the wire tap referencing pay for play. Currently the national media is writing erotic novels about his play last night while LSU kills itself.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:02 am to skullhawk
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Currently the national media is writing erotic novels about his play last night while LSU kills itself.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:03 am to Adam Banks
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Clear him for what?
you already know the answer
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Per our administration he’s not suspended he’s being withheld due to “an abundance of caution”.
Once they called the ncaa they couldn't really play dumb anymore. Now they have to make sure he is eligible before playing him
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:05 am to skullhawk
LSU: Will Wade hasn’t even denied it.
JeVonte Smart: I DIDNT DO IT! I DIDNT DO IT! I DIDNT DO IT!
LSU: Nope we won’t let you play
JeVonte Smart: I DIDNT DO IT! I DIDNT DO IT! I DIDNT DO IT!
LSU: Nope we won’t let you play
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:11 am to skullhawk
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Currently the national media is writing erotic novels about his play last night while LSU kills itself.
LSU's administration goes beyond being clowns. They're actually sick people. They're using Smart as a tool to fire Wade with cause. They literally don't care about Smart.
At this point, they've tied the 2 together. They cannot play Smart and not reinstated Wade. They're also hoping Wade will be devastated by Smart not playing and he will talk to them.
They're sick fricks
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:14 am to LSUButt
So according to the administration, the coach on wiretap simply needs to deny wrongdoing, but the player mentioned in one little snippet needs a full anal probe and denying it isn’t good enough?
Clown show
Clown show
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:27 am to TheFunk
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Seriously. What would it take to have all the clowns who put the university in this position relieved of their duties?
The people who can fire him are at the top and they are as incompetent as they come. And the people who can fire them are even more incompetent (JBE).
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 8:32 am
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:33 am to purplengold1
I've never thought he would play again this year. LSU has taken the "abundance of caution" approach and they cant reinstate Smart without the question arising as to why Wade isn't reinstated as well?
I suspect we hear something along these lines: NCAA and LSU officials met with Smart and his family. All denied wrongdoing. However, in order for Smart to be cleared, LSU and NCAA officials requested to speak with Wade about the substance of the tapes. Wade refused to do so. Thus, we can't completely clear Smart.
The LSU administration (and surprisingly, I don't think it's fully Alleva) has decided internally that the remainder of this basketball season is immaterial to the big picture. If LSU loses today, or the 1st round of the NCAAT, they don't care.
The problem is at this point there is really no future to save. You've asked the NCAA to come investigate you and sanction you if necessary. The relationship between school and HC is likely irreparably broken. There is no trust between either side. The players that likely would have returned for next season (Smart, E. Williams, Days, Taylor, Hyatt) are going to be poached by opportunistic schools
Perhaps LSU would have eventually gotten hit with heavy penalties. But we are in uncharted territory where there isn't just negative information on a "rouge" school. There are dozens of schools who could plausibly be investigated once the federal trials are done. This is an NCAA problem. Not simply a LSU problem.
Yet, despite the overall landscape in college basketball and the unknown scope of the future fallout, LSU's administration has for all practical purposes given themselves a preemptive "death penalty" without any assurances whatsoever it will do anything to mitigate future sanctions. No quality coach is going to want to come work for this administration. The talent you have now will leave and without a quality coach, along with an administration who will be even stricter on recruiting, you're not getting many great players anytime soon.
The "sting" of the death penalty is the inability to sign great players. Reduced scholarships = less good players on your team. Less good players = losing. Losing = a program unattractive to great players. LSU didn't wait for sanctions. They simply chose to make their program unattractive to anyone
LSU basketball right now is like a house where mom started a grease fire in the kitchen. It potentially could have been contained to just the kitchen. But the administrations effort to contain the fire was to basically dump gasoline all over to effective burn down the entire house, just so an outsider wouldn't come in and burn it down. However, the reality is that the outsider will come along anyway just to piss on the ashes
I suspect we hear something along these lines: NCAA and LSU officials met with Smart and his family. All denied wrongdoing. However, in order for Smart to be cleared, LSU and NCAA officials requested to speak with Wade about the substance of the tapes. Wade refused to do so. Thus, we can't completely clear Smart.
The LSU administration (and surprisingly, I don't think it's fully Alleva) has decided internally that the remainder of this basketball season is immaterial to the big picture. If LSU loses today, or the 1st round of the NCAAT, they don't care.
The problem is at this point there is really no future to save. You've asked the NCAA to come investigate you and sanction you if necessary. The relationship between school and HC is likely irreparably broken. There is no trust between either side. The players that likely would have returned for next season (Smart, E. Williams, Days, Taylor, Hyatt) are going to be poached by opportunistic schools
Perhaps LSU would have eventually gotten hit with heavy penalties. But we are in uncharted territory where there isn't just negative information on a "rouge" school. There are dozens of schools who could plausibly be investigated once the federal trials are done. This is an NCAA problem. Not simply a LSU problem.
Yet, despite the overall landscape in college basketball and the unknown scope of the future fallout, LSU's administration has for all practical purposes given themselves a preemptive "death penalty" without any assurances whatsoever it will do anything to mitigate future sanctions. No quality coach is going to want to come work for this administration. The talent you have now will leave and without a quality coach, along with an administration who will be even stricter on recruiting, you're not getting many great players anytime soon.
The "sting" of the death penalty is the inability to sign great players. Reduced scholarships = less good players on your team. Less good players = losing. Losing = a program unattractive to great players. LSU didn't wait for sanctions. They simply chose to make their program unattractive to anyone
LSU basketball right now is like a house where mom started a grease fire in the kitchen. It potentially could have been contained to just the kitchen. But the administrations effort to contain the fire was to basically dump gasoline all over to effective burn down the entire house, just so an outsider wouldn't come in and burn it down. However, the reality is that the outsider will come along anyway just to piss on the ashes
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:43 am to purplengold1
If Smart is not allowed to play I will not watch the game. That is my own protest towards the incompetent administration.
Im looking at you Joe...
Im looking at you Joe...
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:44 am to Topwater Trout
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Once they called the ncaa they couldn't really play dumb anymore. Now they have to make sure he is eligible before playing him
So is he suspended or not? The ncaa can’t clear someone who is already cleared to play
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:49 am to LSUButt
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They cannot play Smart and not reinstated Wade
There is no evidence that Smart ever knew about the offer. All they have is the word of him, his mother, his AAU coach, and one other person.
They have Wade on tape discussing payments for Smart.
There is a very obvious difference between the 2.
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