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Some perspective
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:02 am
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:02 am
Since Miles was fired;
Herman - 4-2(Best Win vs UCF, worst loss vs SMU)
Fisher - 4-2(Best Win vs Miami, Worst Loss vs UNC)
Orgeron - 4-1(Best Win vs Miss, Worst loss vs Bama)
Herman - 4-2(Best Win vs UCF, worst loss vs SMU)
Fisher - 4-2(Best Win vs Miami, Worst Loss vs UNC)
Orgeron - 4-1(Best Win vs Miss, Worst loss vs Bama)
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:05 am to IndianInBR
Florida state is playing with a Freshman QB and loss their version of Eddie Jackson in the secondary
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:07 am to IndianInBR
Dude. Really?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:07 am to IndianInBR
Some of the same people that criticized Miles for his recent record, don't want to look at the recent record of the coaching candidates. Shouldn't be the only factor, but recent success or lack there of should be a factor.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:14 am to IndianInBR
How about a little more perspective:
(1) Herman is coaching a Houston and has made them a relevant program. Once it was clear that they will not be joining the Big 12, his players knew he would definitely be leaving Houston after the season. Reasonable to think that this has impacted his team's play, no?
(2) Fisher is playing with a freshman QB, but he has been the architect of FSU's recruiting since every player on the roster was recruited...so, no alibi there. I am not a huge fan of Fisher.
(3) Orgeron has Aranda as a DC. Neither of the other two coaches you have mentioned do. Orgeron has NFL talent all over the roster, and he has only beaten teams LSU should have beaten. His game plan against Bama was scared are poor.
(1) Herman is coaching a Houston and has made them a relevant program. Once it was clear that they will not be joining the Big 12, his players knew he would definitely be leaving Houston after the season. Reasonable to think that this has impacted his team's play, no?
(2) Fisher is playing with a freshman QB, but he has been the architect of FSU's recruiting since every player on the roster was recruited...so, no alibi there. I am not a huge fan of Fisher.
(3) Orgeron has Aranda as a DC. Neither of the other two coaches you have mentioned do. Orgeron has NFL talent all over the roster, and he has only beaten teams LSU should have beaten. His game plan against Bama was scared are poor.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:26 am to IndianInBR
quote:Miles made winning as miserable as losing. He took the fun out of LSU football.
Some perspective
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:27 am to Lionnation1993
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Florida state is playing with a Freshman QB and loss their version of Eddie Jackson in the secondary
Does that account for a 43 point loss?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:31 am to Housplants
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(2) Fisher is playing with a freshman QB, but he has been the architect of FSU's recruiting since every player on the roster was recruited...so, no alibi there. I am not a huge fan of Fisher.
What the frick are you talking about?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:36 am to Housplants
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he has only beaten teams LSU should have beaten.
Have the other coaches lost to teams they should have beaten?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Does that account for a 43 point loss?
Charles Kelley is a horrible DC, and FSU has been suffering from poor o-line for a couple of years now.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:40 am to SabiDojo
Well doesn't that hiring of a shitty d coordinator fall on jimbo?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:44 am to SabiDojo
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What the frick are you talking about?
Not too hard to understand. He has recruited all of the QBs on his roster, and he is left having to play a freshman QB. He apparently has not recruited the position as well as he would have liked.
So, I do not think you can give him a pass on this season because he is playing a freshman.
Fisher is coaching a program that should be able to bring in a top5-10 recruiting class every year. Similar to LSU. Herman is recruiting to a historically irrelevant program. No comparison.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:45 am to SabiDojo
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His game plan against Bama was scared are poor.
You mean the same offensive game plan that LSU has been using over a 12-year span because of our last head coach.
Do you really think Coach O has enough time at midseason to throw everything out the window that Les Miles created and start from scratch.
I have no idea where you work at or if you work at all, but when your CEO is fired...you cannot abandon everything that the prior CEO created and expect immediate results.
Fact of the matter is Coach O has done more with less in a short time period. He promoted Ensminger and brought in Pete Jenkins on short notice. To only lose by 10 points to a great and well coached team that needed the refs to help them is quite an accomplishment.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 10:46 am
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:45 am to SabiDojo
Well isnt that LSU's problem too....so how does Fisher do something he has not been able to do at FSU??
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:46 am to FLBooGoTigs1
From what I understand, it's hard for Fisher to get raises for his staff. It's why he isn't very happy at FSU. I don't know why he won't can Kelley but I imagine it's hard to get high quality coordinators when you aren't paying them the same as other major programs.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:46 am to Housplants
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Herman is coaching a Houston and has made them a relevant program
Houston has been a relevant team. Art Briles and Kevin Sumlin have coached there within the last 10 years. Kevin Sumlin went 13-1 in one of his seasons.
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Once it was clear that they will not be joining the Big 12, his players knew he would definitely be leaving Houston after the season. Reasonable to think that this has impacted his team's play, no?
Most of the starters on Houston's team were recruited by the previous staff - not Herman. LSU fired their head coach - who was HC when every player on the team signed. There were no rumors, he is gone. LSU player's do not no who their coach will be next year. Did they roll over and play dead?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:47 am to topgun1676
Don't quote me on something I didn't even say. Attribute it to the right poster
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:50 am to Housplants
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Not too hard to understand. He has recruited all of the QBs on his roster, and he is left having to play a freshman QB. He apparently has not recruited the position as well as he would have liked
Francois got the job because the QB in front of him got injured before the season started, and Francois has been exceptional.
Fisher has owned the state of Florida in recruiting for some time now so pick a different thing to knock him on.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:54 am to IndianInBR
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Well isnt that LSU's problem too....so how does Fisher do something he has not been able to do at FSU??
O-line needs to improve under Fisher. There's no doubt about that, but he is miles better than anyone we currently have at LSU when it comes to developing quarterbacks.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:03 am to SabiDojo
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Francois got the job because the QB in front of him got injured before the season started, and Francois has been exceptional. Fisher has owned the state of Florida in recruiting for some time now so pick a different thing to knock him on.
So what is the explanation for the record this year? Fisher has an exceptional QB and the best recruiting. If all is true-- his team has under-performed.
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