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re: Some baseball lineups you'd like to see

Posted on 2/25/21 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 3:21 pm to
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I believe we're facing 3 LH starters this weekend. Might not see Drost as quickly as we'd like to


I don’t mind playing him against lefties this weekend to see how he does. If you want to be an everyday starter you have to be able to hit both.
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 3:25 pm to
I’d like to see an All-Freshman lineup; start doing it in midweek games and then use it as a contrast to the W/E games; then, start the best......
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 3:36 pm to
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I’d like to see an All-Freshman lineup; start doing it in midweek games and then use it as a contrast to the W/E games; then, start the best......


Only issue I have with that is you have guys like Dugas, Doughty, Arnold, and Milazzo who because of the shortened season last year need at bats to get more comfortable as well.

Beloso is your only starter that has a full season of starters reps under his belt.
Posted by Tigerfan3224
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:45 pm to
Is Mo Hampton ever going to get a chance?
Posted by Tigercruiser56
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:23 pm to
I am also curious to know why his playing time has diminished since last year.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:24 pm to
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Crews CF
Morgan LF
Beloso 1B
Dugas RF
Travinski DH
Doughty 2B
Bianco 3B
Milazzo C
Arnold SS



Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:27 pm to
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I am also curious to know why his playing time has diminished since last year.



He’s been passed up.

He was a raw prospect coming in and the majority of the time, that he hasn’t been hurt, he’s spent with the football team.

Combine that with arguably the best freshman class in school history and Hampton becomes a non-priority for baseball real quick.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 10:28 pm
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:30 pm to
Who should sit right now to justify getting a guy that has just picked up a bat for the first time in 6 months 1 month ago and will probably be leaving the team in the middle of SEC play at bats?

Please keep in mind with Gio’s injury all the guys playing in the outfield are newcomers and need as many at bats as possible as well.
Posted by Tigerfan3224
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:40 pm to
I’d say he was a little more than a raw prospect coming out of HS. He was on the same draft status as Crews. You let a guy with that skill/athleticism get comfortable at the plate and the sky is the limit.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:24 am to
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He was on the same draft status as Crews



That has very little to do with how polished of a ball player he was coming out of high school. MLB GMs don’t care if you’re raw. They’ll get you caught up in the minors.

In college it doesn’t matter what you can be in 6 or 7 years. So while Hampton and Crews may be on the same level in 6 years he’s not there now. And we have games to win now.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:40 am to
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I'm not crapping on Beloso, as I really like him and I am pulling for him to be successful; but right now his OPS is 6th best of the starters and his slugging is 8th best. While he does appear to have a little better approach at the plate this season (7 BB to 1 K), he is not hitting that well in the early going and when he does hit, it's not that hard (only 3 singles & 1 RBI).

Dugas has appeared to start putting it together the last 2 games. While he does have some more swing and miss in him, when he connects, it is going to be a shot and currently is better than Beloso in avg., slg., OPS, and RBI.

The problem with all of this is we're conjecturing based on extremely small sample sizes. Dugas batted well the last week, but he might be back at .150 soon. Drost has had two(?) plate appearances.

For tonight, I'd like to see Travinski in the DH instead of Beloso, to face the left hander. If he does well keep it for tomorrow's lefty.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:00 am to
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It remains to be seen how good Travinski is behind the plate. I just think we should give him and Wyeth a shot back there.

They'll get their shots in relief of Milazzo. Fans place way too much emphasis on a catcher's offensive productivity. Milazzo completely controls the running game, and does a very good job managing our pitchers. Some have complained about him framing pitches, but that hasn't been apparent to me.

If we look at the math: Assume Milazzo keeps hitting 150 and Travinski can manage 300. This is a best case comparison for Travinski. At the back of the lineup, this would result in less than 1 hit per game - about 0.65 hits per game. If one base runner, that Milazzo would have kept at first, can steal second on Travinski, that completely negates his offensive advantage. When you include things like passed balls it might be even worse.

We should play our best defensive catcher. Only take him out to rest him, or if we are trailing going into late innings and he is about to bat. The only exception to that would be if the second string guy was almost just as good behind the plate.
Posted by Tigerfan3224
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:36 am to
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Hampton and Crews may be on the same level in 6 years he’s not there now.


Yes this may be true. Crews is shown he can play at a very high level. Hampton has not had a chance to show what he can do. He was injured during the short amount of playing time he got in the past.

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We have to win games now.


If 1 out of the 9 bats you have in the lineup will cost you a win against teams like Youngstown State, then that 1 guy is not the only problem. There is a reason that they play these teams early in the season.

This is the part of the season when you evaluate your players. Including all the great freshman we have this year. But when you have an elite talent like Hampton you need to find him opportunities.
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:38 am to
You’re assuming Hampton is not getting these opportunities in practice. Fact of the matter is, regardless of how high his ceiling may be, Hampton is behind every other player on the roster because he can’t devote the full year to the baseball team. All of these guys were hitting and fielding throughout the fall; Hampton was playing football.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:48 am to
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Hampton was playing football.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:53 am to
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I don’t mind playing him against lefties this weekend to see how he does. If you want to be an everyday starter you have to be able to hit both.



This, plus all our other OF options are lefties anyways - Safford, Sanford and Drost all bat from left side, so somebody is going to be a lefty at the plate between them.

That is unless he pulls a real Mainieri and starts Bianco or Hampton on us.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 9:54 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:55 am to
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Is Mo Hampton ever going to get a chance?



He puts himself behind in football and baseball juggling both. Just think he's going to need to show more in practice before Mainieri would ever think about putting him in every day, otherwise he'll be mostly a pinch runner or defensive replacement with some spot ABs.
Posted by TigerLaw40
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:52 am to
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The problem with all of this is we're conjecturing based on extremely small sample sizes. Dugas batted well the last week, but he might be back at .150 soon

I don't at all disagree with you here. And I'm not even arguing to take Beloso out the lineup. Just don't get the idea of having him in the 4 hole at this point. With his early OBP success and lack of exhibited power, he'd better suited to either be a top of the order guy (2 hole) or to be in the 6-7 slots.

But going off the limited picture, just to back it up more, even in the shortened season last year, Dugas had a Slg of .607 and an OPS of 1.019, while Beloso was .453 and .806 respectively.

So I'm just arguing that I would not have Beloso in the cleanup spot, a traditional slugging part of the order, over someone like Dugas.
Posted by Tigerfan3224
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:47 pm to
Hampton still goes over and takes swings during football season. He doesn’t just put down a bat in June and not pick it back up until February. Fielding wise he is going to be able to play defense as well as anyone we have.

There was a reason he was offered 1mil+ coming out of high school. If you give a guy with his talent the opportunities needed he will figure it out and be a very productive player.
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 3:07 pm to
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There was a reason he was offered 1mil+ coming out of high school. If you give a guy with his talent the opportunities needed he will figure it out and be a very productive player.


Because he was a raw talent that had never focused on just one sport and has an extremely high ceiling. He is still the same exact guy as a baseball prospect two years later. He will be drafted again when he is able to be.

Who are you taking at bats away from to get him at bats? Your options are Beloso your most experienced hitter in the roster, Crews a future top 5 pick, Dugas who has been hitting the last two games and has the biggest hit of the season so far, Drost who has gotten a hit in every one of his at bats so far including a homerun, Sanford has looked pretty comfortable at the plate in his at bats.
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