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re: So you think LSU is a poor FT shooting team
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:57 am to tigersbb
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:57 am to tigersbb
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The averages fro the season encompass all kinds of situations . They may have shot extremely poorly over a few minutes last night, but that does not constitute being a bad free throw shooting team. Last night was an aberration just like it would have been if say they had hit 9 of 10.
Correct. Everything reverts to the mean (in the first part of the 2nd half, they were making crazy crap - remember the banked 3 pointer?) and there is no evidence of any mythical "clutch" effect.
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:58 am to tigersbb
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How can it fricking be a joke The % is what it is
Not very good.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 12:02 pm to tigersbb
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tigersbb
Well I'll be damned. Helen Keller! All this time I thought your blind ole arse was dead!
Posted on 3/20/15 at 12:02 pm to Big Scrub TX
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remember the banked 3 pointer?)
Granted, but how many baskets did NCS get that bounced around and rolled in including the game winner? I counted about five so if anyone got the luck bounce it was them.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 12:08 pm to UpToPar
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We are 204th in FT%. There are 203 teams that shoot free throws better than we do.
Well, this isn't true.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 12:10 pm to oauron
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Well, this isn't true.
Link?
Posted on 3/20/15 at 12:37 pm to tigersbb
According to this LINK LSU is 201 out of 345.
That's NOT terrible, but it is below average.
The frustrating thing is that it's one aspect that is very "fixable" and when your team has problems finishing out close games it should be the first thing you address.
FT shooting doesn't take talent only practice.
Kentucky and Arkansas both have multiple players in the top 250 for ft shooting percentage (LSU has none), and they both finished in the top 80 as a team.
If LSU were in the same boat, they'd be somewhere around 29-6 and looking forward to Saturday.
That's NOT terrible, but it is below average.
The frustrating thing is that it's one aspect that is very "fixable" and when your team has problems finishing out close games it should be the first thing you address.
FT shooting doesn't take talent only practice.
Kentucky and Arkansas both have multiple players in the top 250 for ft shooting percentage (LSU has none), and they both finished in the top 80 as a team.
If LSU were in the same boat, they'd be somewhere around 29-6 and looking forward to Saturday.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 1:01 pm to tigersbb
Team Free Throw % and National Rank
Johnny Jones Era:
2014-2015 - 68.4% (205th)
2013-2014 - 66.9% (273rd)
2012-2013 - 62.5% (333rd)
Final year of Trent:
2011-2012 - 69.1% (178th)
Information obtained from:
Sports Reference - LSU
Not sure about the validity or accuracy of Sports Reference.
Johnny Jones Era:
2014-2015 - 68.4% (205th)
2013-2014 - 66.9% (273rd)
2012-2013 - 62.5% (333rd)
Final year of Trent:
2011-2012 - 69.1% (178th)
Information obtained from:
Sports Reference - LSU
Not sure about the validity or accuracy of Sports Reference.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 1:01 pm to tgerb8
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If LSU were in the same boat, they'd be somewhere around 29-6 and looking forward to Saturday
To a point that may be true, Yet, there are teams ranked much higher in FT shooting that don't do other things as well as LSU and have a worse record. For instance Alabama is an 80% FT team and they are not in post season and just fired their coach.
Except for Mickey and Gray the rest of the team is 70% or better so it cannot be a system wide thing.
What is strange is that both Gray and Anthony Hickey the past few seasons were about 55% so maybe it is a point guard thing, a position where usually it is one of the best FT shooting position.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 1:02 pm to tigersbb
Don't care
Choked when it mattered most
Choked when it mattered most
Posted on 3/20/15 at 3:11 pm to tigersbb
The problem is that they can't make "pressure" FTs....
Posted on 3/20/15 at 4:07 pm to tigersbb
I recall that after TQ and JP began starting, a couple of times the announcers commented on the entire LSU starting five shooting better than 70%. Mickey, Martin and TQ(Was well over 80% at the time) all really slumped the latter quarter of the season.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 4:11 pm to cas4t
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and being situationally bad at free throws does warrant being called bad at free throws.
Its harder to shoot free throws after 40 minutes of consecutive play. The situations aren't random. That's a known negative. It can be overcome. Better than having non SEC players on the court.
12/22 vs 17/22 or whatever is nothing compared to being outmatched in the other elements of the game. FT% get very overrated IMO. Its just a very noticeable thing to fans. It's a very small percentage of the game.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 4:17 pm to tigersbb
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tigersbb
Please break your keyboard over your head
Posted on 3/20/15 at 4:17 pm to UpToPar
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We are 204th in FT%. There are 203 teams that shoot free throws better than we do.
Not to infringe on Posting Guidelines (rule #5), and if the above provided info is correct, I do not "think we are a poor FT shooting team", I know we are a poor FT shooting team.
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