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So who pulled the trigger on calling Foster ineligible?
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:39 pm
Was this an LSU Compliance Call? If so, why were they so quick to issue a ruling on ineligibility prior to going through the rules that govern Foster's situation?
It appears that LSU Compliance would be the one to make calls on eligibility. If that's the case, then why did they not take the rules re: 5th year Seniors into consideration prior to damaging Foster's reputation and preventing him from playing (potentially hurting LSU's chances to compete for multiple Championships in the process)?
I know at the end of the day that Foster's return to eligibility and winning an appeal as well as using an NCAA rule that's clearly worded to return to play is the big takeaway, but why would be so quick to end this kid's entire career without first reviewing his situation thoroughly.
Seems a big snafu on the part of LSU Compliance. One that hurt LSU but hurt the kid bigtime.
It appears that LSU Compliance would be the one to make calls on eligibility. If that's the case, then why did they not take the rules re: 5th year Seniors into consideration prior to damaging Foster's reputation and preventing him from playing (potentially hurting LSU's chances to compete for multiple Championships in the process)?
I know at the end of the day that Foster's return to eligibility and winning an appeal as well as using an NCAA rule that's clearly worded to return to play is the big takeaway, but why would be so quick to end this kid's entire career without first reviewing his situation thoroughly.
Seems a big snafu on the part of LSU Compliance. One that hurt LSU but hurt the kid bigtime.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:40 pm to GFunk
I don't know the answer. But if the situation is as simple as you say, then I agree with you.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:42 pm to GFunk
LSUs compliance office seems to get us in more trouble than they're worth...
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:45 pm to GFunk
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So who pulled the trigger on calling Foster ineligible?
It's a fair question that deserves an answer.
If it's the coaching staff, then I don't find fault at them for not having knowledge of the "loopholes" behind eligibility.
However, if it's compliance, it's absolutely unacceptable and may point to a larger issue at hand (I think that's what you are getting at).
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:46 pm to GFunk
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One that hurt LSU but hurt the kid bigtime.
I wouldn't say it hurt the kid big time... he missed 4 games and was reinstated immediately once the issue was resolved.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:47 pm to GFunk
It may have been a situation which he had to be declared ineligible then appeal in case his appeal had not been granted. Had they kept him playing we could have been subject to playing an ineligible player. From the legal standpoint sometimes you have to go through with the "process" which can include a decision then an official appeal.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:49 pm to TorNation
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TorNation
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It may have been a situation which he had to be declared ineligible then appeal in case his appeal had not been granted. Had they kept him playing we could have been subject to playing an ineligible player. From the legal standpoint sometimes you have to go through with the "process" which can include a decision then an official appeal.
The NCAA rule in place makes absolutely no mention of the need for an appeal (which he did and won anyway). He was never ineligible. He was announced publicly so. I want to know who made that call and why.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:51 pm to GFunk
Very legitimate question. It's also brought on unnecessary bad PR for Foster and the baseball team.
Bottom line is it sounds like someone didnt do their job. Or didnt know a rule when it's their job to know the rule.
Bottom line is it sounds like someone didnt do their job. Or didnt know a rule when it's their job to know the rule.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:51 pm to GFunk
It will be interesting to see if any of this comes to light. I do not blame CPM for playing others in Foster's place given the information he was provided. He made the correct move. Glad Foster is back.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:53 pm to Erin Go Bragh
The BRPD, they couldn't just stop with la'el
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:54 pm to bbap
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Bottom line is it sounds like someone didnt do their job. Or didnt know a rule when it's their job to know the rule.
Alleva should declare LSU compliance ineligible
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:59 pm to lsuman242
I agree it damaged Foster's reputation. I don't think it will cost him much in the long run if anything. Just go back and look at all the threads on how he let the team down and "what a dumbass" type comments after he was ruled off the team. I'm not saying he couldn't have performed better and made all this moot.
I agree if compliance missed a rule, there is a problem. According to Scott Long, PM was surprised by this initially and that isn't good either. I'm not blaming PM here as nobody knows the outcome of a final until it is graded.
I agree if compliance missed a rule, there is a problem. According to Scott Long, PM was surprised by this initially and that isn't good either. I'm not blaming PM here as nobody knows the outcome of a final until it is graded.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:01 pm to GFunk
So maybe while they were doing more research on the issue they declared him ineligible..... just so if he was actually ineligible and he played, LSU would not have to forfeit games, the season??????
Probably the coaches though. I would believe the investigation into this would probably take a little bit of time....... The rule book is huge.
Probably the coaches though. I would believe the investigation into this would probably take a little bit of time....... The rule book is huge.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:01 pm to C
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LSUs compliance office seems to get us in more trouble than they're worth...
They just operate like the NCAA still gives a shite.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:01 pm to GFunk
CPM did the right thing, he was told by "someone" who is in charge of academic eligibility issues that Foster would be inelligable; he moved on & got his replacement the much needed playing time. The problem lies with the "someone" who either misinterpreted the rule or didn't explore all the options in regard to this situation. LSU may need to look in to the compliance department, seems they have made some reporting errors that have hurt LSU much more than helped LSU.
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:02 pm to moneyg
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However, if it's compliance, it's absolutely unacceptable and may point to a larger issue at hand (I think that's what you are getting at).
I think they're getting a pass on this. For years, they have laid the screws to LSU Athletics. Except for-ironically-LSU Men's Basketball.
I wonder why that is? Hmmm. Can anyone remember a young Bo Bahnsen as a Ball Boy for Dale Brown? I sure can. So ironic that while other Athletic Programs at LSU in our AD are nailed to the wall routinely, the dirtiest sport at the collegiate level in terms of recruiting has been squeaky clean. Makes you wonder sometimes. Oh well I'm sure its probably just a conspiracy theory from a numbnut fan like so many others here on TD.
But back to my point. They have always taken a defiant approach to compliance as opposed to a complimentary one. That culture cost the Baseball program and a 3.5 year program player, a 5th year senior looking to get drafted and finish out his collegiate career from being recognized on Senior Day with his teammates in his last Regular Season Series at the Box.
That deserves some scrutiny. As much as any they have hailed on any of the unfortunate programs here in Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 3:06 pm
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