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re: Sick of the Saban butt-hurt
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:03 am to gwilging
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:03 am to gwilging
You are dead wrong! Saban restored Lsu to an elite program. Built the cox center for athletes, hired a highschool coach as a liason to help recruiting. Saban made Lsu a top 3 program. Miles came in to a great situation and has completely f d it up!
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:09 am to FlyingTiger06
Saban said without #1 recruiting class every year he is an average coach. That is why he said he can not win in NFL.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 5:28 am to FlyingTiger06
Most of these posts are hilarious. We can bitch and moan about how Saban is so much better than Miles, but what good does that do anyone?!
Is Saban coming back to LSU??? NO! So, why even waste your time crying about it? MOVE THE HELL ON!
I don't give a rats arse what Nick Saban does at Alabama. I'm an LSU fan.
If you stack the numbers of both coaches up from their time AT LSU, Miles wins. Now does that mean he is a better coach than Nick Saban? No! And I don't think most of the "Pro-Miles" fans would try to tell you that he is.
However, they will tell you, and rightfully so, that no one has had more success, at LSU than Les Miles.
Is Saban coming back to LSU??? NO! So, why even waste your time crying about it? MOVE THE HELL ON!
I don't give a rats arse what Nick Saban does at Alabama. I'm an LSU fan.
If you stack the numbers of both coaches up from their time AT LSU, Miles wins. Now does that mean he is a better coach than Nick Saban? No! And I don't think most of the "Pro-Miles" fans would try to tell you that he is.
However, they will tell you, and rightfully so, that no one has had more success, at LSU than Les Miles.
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 5:41 am
Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:28 am to BayouBengalBuff
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I don't give a rats arse what Nick Saban does at Alabama. I'm an LSU fan.
So you don't care about being the best?
Posted on 10/21/13 at 7:00 am to Topwater Trout
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So you don't care about being the best?
LSU is #1 in my mind.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 7:44 am to MontanaTiger
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"Dubose, Franchione and Shula all won 10 games in a season at Bama"
If you think these guy's records are comparable to Saban's at Bama, then I don't know what to say. But it may be why you think Miles is comparable to Saban.
You missed my point. Those guys clearly weren't as good as Saban. But if they were at LSU they wouldn't have won 10 games in a season either. In fact, I'm not sure Shula or Dubose ever would have had a winning season at LSU.
So, my point is that, in general, coaches at Bama over-perform against their abilities. Put a great coach there like Saban, and he becomes legendary. Look at Gene Stallings. He was a failure at aTm & the NFL, but he goes to Bama and wins a MNC in 3 years.
I can't explain it, but it is what it is.
GEAUX TIGERS
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 7:45 am
Posted on 10/21/13 at 7:52 am to FlyingTiger06
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You put a great recruiter at any of those schools and suddenly they are super-stocked and winning championships consistently
Miles is a damn fine recruiter. Would he have won 3 of 4 NCs at Bama if he and Saban had switched places in 2008?
Posted on 10/21/13 at 7:54 am to uway
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Miles is a damn fine recruiter.
Is he? I think LSU recruits itself. State loaded with talent and we have top 5 facilities.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:03 am to uway
quote:This is open for debate. I'm sure it'll open up a can of worms, so I'll just leave it that.
Miles is a damn fine recruiter.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:13 am to Armymann50
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LSU is #1 in my mind.
The program looks more like number two...
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:45 am to FlyingTiger06
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my opinion is he'd likely be doing no better than Miles is.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:55 am to FlyingTiger06
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OK, then explain why you disagree.
Your conclusions involve too much speculation. That's why I disagree.
I think we both agree that Nick Saban has improved as a head coach since 2005, if only because his head is clearer and he's more focused on his college game, rather than being distracted by interest in the NFL.
I'm not going to comment on Coach Miles in this post, because, I have already praised him and pointed out his weaknesses in earlier posts. I've also stated previously that he is good for LSU, because LSU is not likely to muster the skill set that would be needed to find a better head coach.
So, as I have said before, Coach Miles is the best that LSU can do, and he's going to be at LSU forever. I'd guess that Coach Miles knows that this is the best job he could possibly hope for.
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 9:13 am
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:56 am to Topwater Trout
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I think LSU recruits itself. State loaded with talent and we have top 5 facilities.
It does not, trust me.
Mack Brown always thought Texas recruited itself, so he started getting lazy. You see how that worked out for him recently.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 8:58 am to mcgwyergolf
How can people even remotely still be comparing Miles to Saban at this point? 
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:01 am to Salmon
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Mack Brown always thought Texas recruited itself,
Has become lazy
A young coach at LSU would be a great recruiter. This isn't the same LSU as it was in the 90's when Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, etc would come take who they wanted.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:02 am to Topwater Trout
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Has become lazy
I know...therefore schools do not recruit themselves
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:05 am to Goldrush25
I live in North Al. u guy's don't realize that Saban is a god in this state. He will retire here because they already built him a statue & he isn't dead yet.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:06 am to FlyingTiger06
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but Bama is up there with Notre Dame and Michigan in history/tradition. You put a great recruiter at any of those schools and suddenly they are super-stocked and winning championships consistently
You underestimate the power of $$$. History/tradition is overrated.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:13 am to Salmon
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therefore schools do not recruit themselves
Getting a recruit to come to lsu is easier than getting one to go to Miss. St
Posted on 10/21/13 at 9:14 am to Topwater Trout
and why is that?
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