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re: Should we be worried about our receivers not giving a shite?
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:19 am to GeauxTigerNation
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:19 am to GeauxTigerNation
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Should we be worried about our receivers not giving a shite?
No, anytime Miles calls your position out in the media, players either get their shite together or they get the bench.
ETA: He should call out the special teams. They have been a shitfest.
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:25 am to mmcgrath
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The only year you can say we didn't have a better QB over the last 15 years is last year, and he was on the team.
The receiving corps have never had as bad a case of the butterfingers than they have this year. Harris isn't the best we've had, but the receivers aren't helping him at all. I'm not sure I've as many inexpiable drops as we've seen this year. Harris's completion percentage should be closer to 65%.
Couple that with the change is play calling over the last several years, and the opportunity for his ability to show through production just isn't there. This is the amount of passes attempted since 2007:
2008: 391
2009: 336
2010: 301
2011: 279
2012: 356
2013: 326
2014: 276
We're on pace to only attempt 181 passes this year. And that's not because Harris is a bad QB.
And regardless, 2010 Jefferson is worse than 2015 Harris if Harris maintains his current pace.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:26 am to GeauxTigerNation
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Should we be worried about our receivers not giving a shite?
I think this is a legitimate concern. Watching the games, you can see that so many times, they know it's going to be a running play so they basically put their hands on the defender in a half as way or barely get out of their stance b/c they KNOW it's not coming to them. I honestly didn't think that after last year our passing game could get any WORSE. Turns out it absolutely could and the biggest reason for it is you have a best-in-CFB running back who can get you 5-6 yards almost every time he touches the ball.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:28 am to say when
You should transfer out.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:34 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Check out some game tape of OBJ in early 2012 and 2013. Rueben Randle too.
I'm not sure I've as many inexpiable drops as we've seen this year.
quote:That is downright scary. But you have to admit that Harris is apart of that equation.
This is the amount of passes attempted since 2007:
2008: 391
2009: 336
2010: 301
2011: 279
2012: 356
2013: 326
2014: 276
We're on pace to only attempt 181 passes this year. And that's not because Harris is a bad QB.
quote:I don't see how you came to that conclusion at all. 2010 JJ >>>>> Harris.
And regardless, 2010 Jefferson is worse than 2015 Harris if Harris maintains his current pace.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:36 am to HeauxBeaux
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Personally, I don't think their play was as bad as that. I give them an F+
I would give them an incomplete.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 8:38 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:37 am to mmcgrath
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Check out some game tape of OBJ in early 2012 and 2013. Rueben Randle too.
They had a few drops over a season. We're only 4 games in.
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But you have to admit that Harris is apart of that equation.
No I don't. Receivers are dropping a ton of balls and no one can stop Fournette.
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I don't see how you came to that conclusion at all. 2010 JJ >>>>> Harris.
A nifty thing called stats. Try looking at them.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:41 am to LNCHBOX
I would put in WR's that are willing to block and play team ball. I was a WR in HS and we only threw the ball a few times a game. My job was to hit LB's in the ear hole. I enjoyed that part and I enjoyed catching passes.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:46 am to liquid rabbit
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I would give them an incomplete.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:51 am to GeauxTigerNation
Les has clearly, and publicly, challenged them to step the frick up.
I haven't seen him do that to a player or position group like that in a long time. I think it will have an impact.
I haven't seen him do that to a player or position group like that in a long time. I think it will have an impact.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:51 am to GeauxTigerNation
Dupre quote...
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"If they were recruiting me and they told me they were going to give the ball to Leonard, or the running backs 75 percent of the time, it might be hard to get a recruit at the receiver position or quarterback position," Dupre said. "But at the end of the day, we're here ... we've got to live with it.
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This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 8:55 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:52 am to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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Franks is coming in next year and I honestly think we will have a true dynamic passer and leader with charisma, coolness, and confidence for the first time since Mett
Holy shite, based on what? High school competition?
No freshman QB is coming to LSU and making an impact.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:53 am to ForeLSU
No, because for how ever many that don't give a shite, there are others on the bench who will bust arse every play.
Rewatching the tape, Dural looked disconnected, even when targeted for deep passes.
Rewatching the tape, Dural looked disconnected, even when targeted for deep passes.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:56 am to mmcgrath
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2010 JJ >>>>> Harris.
Harris is a MUCH, MUCH better runner and has a better running game and offensive line to support that running game.
Its just a different squad with different plays and coaches.
If Harris was QB in 2010 he'd have better stats than JJ and I have no doubt about that.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:57 am to TheCaterpillar
Our WR also have to get some seperation from the defensive backs.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 10:21 am to sumtimeitbeslikedat
So Franks is your next savior.
Just add him to the list that has been ruined by this coaching staff.
That's IF he even comes.
Just add him to the list that has been ruined by this coaching staff.
That's IF he even comes.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 10:37 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:Harris is a much more instinctive runner. Which would be great if he was a running back. JJ was a better passer.
Harris is a MUCH, MUCH better runner and has a better running game and offensive line to support that running game.
quote:Just above you admit that Harris has better running backs and offensive line now than JJ had in 2010. So how could you possibly say he would have better stats?
If Harris was QB in 2010 he'd have better stats than JJ and I have no doubt about that.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 10:45 am to LNCHBOX
quote:OBJ had a few drops in each of several games. And we aren't talking about times where he would have to spin around and managed to get his fingertips on the ball, we are talking about in both hands in stride.
They had a few drops over a season. We're only 4 games in
quote:When you come up with any showing Harris is a better QB than JJ in 2010, let me know.
A nifty thing called stats. Try looking at them.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:27 pm to say when
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So Franks is your next savior. Just add him to the list that has been ruined by this coaching staff. That's IF he even comes.
Well heck then! Following your "logic", we shouldn't even field a team. We have no hope. Everyone sucks, and the only people who should come to LSU are suckers and rejects. Idiots like you are the ones who RUIN the meaning of what it is to be a fan. Saying all of that, let me end with this:
Know how I know you are either a troll from another fanbase or a complete idiot? And for the record Im leaning heavily on troll.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:41 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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Know how I know you are either a troll from another fanbase or a complete idiot? And for the record Im leaning heavily on troll.
I saw Burt Jones throw passes to his cousin Andy Hamilton when I was young and haven't missed a game since.
So, not a troll, just someone who's not happy with the offensive philosophy of this coaching staff.
If you think that makes me an idiot....I really don't care.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 2:44 pm
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