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re: Seriously, WTF happened to our OLine?

Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:42 pm to
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you are absolutely correct. it isn't just the predictability of the play calling. When you can't punch it in from 2 yards out on 4 attempts, the OL has a problem. although the coaches should recognize this and run another play. football isn't always about physically imposing your will on the other team
If we run 4 straight QB sneaks or 4 straight handoffs to the tailback I could agree with this, but we handed it off for some fullbacks sneaks (like teams don't know Les yet) and run the QB on the last one.

I would like to see the return of the Magee at QB power lineup we ran last year or the year before.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:44 pm to
It still blows my mind that Les Miles was an offensive line coach at big college programs (Colorado and Michigan) for 12 years.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:47 pm to
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lol. didn't someone speculate that every time we had OL issues under Stud that it was because we had switched to zone blocking?


he did try to force the zone blocking system, esp when we were trying to run some spread option with JJ

that's why we went for smaller OL until saban started winning titles with behemoths

our OL philosophy has been a shite show and inconsistent since jimbo left. always trying new things and trying to fit pieces into new systems that may not fit. recruiting OL that don't fit in the system we use by the time they're physically ready for CFB
Posted by TigerBlood17
Member since Jan 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:47 pm to
So Grimes is the problem?? Can we fire him or are we stuck with him?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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422407 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:48 pm to
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It still blows my mind that Les Miles was an offensive line coach at big college programs (Colorado and Michigan) for 12 years.

he's still using the systems that worked at those schools 20 years ago
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
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Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:53 pm to
So do you think when coaches question Les, he just screams, "YOU DON'T KNOW BO," and walks away whispering incoherently?
Posted by FranMully
New Jersey
Member since Aug 2013
1317 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:54 pm to
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SwaggerCopter
thats exactly what happens
Posted by TigerBlood17
Member since Jan 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:56 pm to
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So do you think when coaches question Les, he just screams, "YOU DON'T KNOW BO," and walks away whispering incoherently?
yes
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:00 pm to
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WFT


White flame tornado? Woofie Fur Trader? Wise furniture transporter?
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12172 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:01 pm to
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WFT happened to our OLine?


We constantly line up in I formation, 1 WR, and two tight ends. Therefore, we constantly have 9 and sometimes even 10 in the damn box, and people wanna know why our OL can't block.
Posted by TigerBlood17
Member since Jan 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:03 pm to
We faced stacked boxes in 2012 too and we ran much better than this.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27825 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:06 pm to
The center and guards aren't getting their arse kicked by DTs just because a safety is a few yards closer to the ball than he normally is.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:11 pm to
Only Les would think its a good idea to try to change your OL scheme at the same time that you are breaking in a couple of new QBs and a batch of new WRs. Add to that rebuilding the DL and its amazing that he would even consider tinkering with the blocking schemes.

Sometimes I really wonder about Les. Reasoning and logic don't seem to play a big role in his decisions.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:13 pm to
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91 owned our arse all night.


to be fair he has been SEC player of the week 3 times already
Posted by TigerBlood17
Member since Jan 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:14 pm to
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White flame tornado
this is an interesting thought
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:17 pm to
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Sometimes I really wonder about Les. Reasoning and logic don't seem to play a big role in his decisions.


Calling a timeout with 3 seconds left in the first half to run a screen pass was really really bizarre. It's like he's just coaching at random sometimes with no real plan, that or he is actually starting to second guess himself.
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10175 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:20 pm to
I was seeing a lot of missed blocks. On one screen, 74 never even looked at the corner back while he ran right behind him to tackle the back. Had he just turned to the left and shielded him the play would have been a huge gain. Instead they failed to get a first down. They just seemed to have their heads In their asses for a lot of the game.
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 10:29 pm
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:24 pm to
porter looked awful the few times I watched him. hell the msu rushers that were killing aj were coming from the middle a lot of times.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:32 pm to
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Therefore, we constantly have 9 and sometimes even 10 in the damn box, and people wanna know why our OL can't block.


yes, many of our plays are anticipated but it is much worse than that. we are getting stuffed at the line in goal line situations that we scored easily on last year. and a 3 man rush got us last night.

our blocking is terrible and it's not just our play calling. and it's not just our OL. we ran what should have been a successful screen last night (finally) with 3 tigers out front and bam. an msu guy dodged all 3 "blockers" and smashed the play. he went unblocked!

it's like our guys don't know who to block and just take half arse stabs at somebody.
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10175 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:35 pm to
I've always been a supporter of CLM, but the whiskey and MSU "slow starts", to me, mean the team was not properly prepared or motivated to play. They have no fire. MSU outhit LSU all game. LSU should never be outhit by anyone. LSU is supposed to be the aggressors. MSU is supposed to feel the LSU hangover Tubby talked about. I hate seeing the Tigers get bullied like that. It hurts my heart.
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 10:36 pm
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