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re: Serious question from an Ole Miss fan....

Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Dobermann
Member since Sep 2008
2032 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:45 pm to
1)no
2)we were in position to run a couple of plays and kick the game winner...crowton calls for JJ to roll out and takes the sack. That was where coaching botched our oppurtunity to win the game...the final 2 plays of the game was merely a display of Miles sideline incompetence, although our boys still put us in position to win.

Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:46 pm to
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I just don't see how you could say yes to either of these. You were significantly outgained, lost TOP by a wide margin, had no running game, and threw for 90+ yards of your passing yardage at the end of the game, including the hail mary.


Because our coaching is terrible.

We have as much talent as anyone in the SEC.

I don't see how you can say the 15 seconds wouldn't make a difference. We would have ball on your 6 with 16 seconds left. Plenty of time to run the clock to 3 spike the ball and kick the FG.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:46 pm to
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Don't kid yourself, Ole Miss is a veryyyy underrated team in terms of 'talent'.




I know. But they are still not in our league as far as talent is concerned. I go to school up here and get to see Ole Miss play a lot.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52653 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:48 pm to
1) No.
2) Maybe. The FG would not have been a sure thing, but I'd sure have liked to have a shot to win even though we were outplayed.

Posted by olemiss33
Member since Dec 2006
25 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:50 pm to
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This shows how retarded you are.

Do you think there is a really good chance that we miss a 25 yard FG to win the game?


No, I dont think you would have missed a 25 yard FG. But, to assume you are in that same position if it plays out differently is strictly guessing.

IMO, you should have run the ball twice from the 30, and taken your chances with your FG unit from there.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9628 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

1)Do you guys truly believe you were the better team on the field last night?


No and that's kind of the point, and that's also why everyone wants Miles gone.

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2) Do you truly believe that had Miles called the timeout when 24 seconds were still on the clock, that the outcome would have been different?


I'm going to need an explanation here.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9280 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:51 pm to
Hands down McCluster was the best football player on the field for either team. And just think, he was seconds away from being the biggest goat for letting the onsides kick go right by him allowing LSU to recover. That would have been the dumb*uck play of the game.
Posted by crispy1
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2008
21 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:52 pm to
#1 no...our time mgmt was pathetic...But our PLAYERS put us in a position to win...coaches screwed it up..
#2 Yes...statistics are for losers...the final score is all that matters
Let's talk about McCluster's short arming the On Sides..Ole'...Mangina!
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52653 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:53 pm to
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IMO, you should have run the ball twice from the 30, and taken your chances with your FG unit from there.



No shite!
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58928 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

1)Do you guys truly believe you were the better team on the field last night?



Team? No

quote:

2) Do you truly believe that had Miles called the timeout when 24 seconds were still on the clock, that the outcome would have been different?



Chip shot? Yeah. Game over.

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You were significantly outgained


Well, the better team outgained by a large margin and still only beat LSU by two?

Look Reb... Just count your blessings and don't get too cocky. Ole Miss didn't look like much last night. LSU just happened to look worse.

Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8186 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:56 pm to
I was at the game and while Ole Miss dominated statistically and deserved to win the game, the blunder by Miles regarding clock management cost LSU the game. Hell, I could kick a 23 yr. field goal! I suppose there is always bad snaps and blocked kicks, but in all probability, the Tigers snatched defeat from the jaws of victory due to coaching (or lack thereof). With that said, coaching is a big part of the game and Ole Miss definitely wins that battle.
Posted by huckiewin
Ft Myers Fl.
Member since Mar 2005
1131 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 4:00 pm to
do not understand your thoughts, outgained absoutely, but we would have won with more time, crazy post.
Posted by olemiss33
Member since Dec 2006
25 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Hands down McCluster was the best football player on the field for either team. And just think, he was seconds away from being the biggest goat for letting the onsides kick go right by him allowing LSU to recover. That would have been the dumb*uck play of the game.


Actually, no. He did what he was supposed to do. The ball was too hot for a frontline guy to make a play on it. It was a terrific kick that took the perfect bounce for you. Do you really think Dex could have made that play being that close to it?
Posted by olemiss33
Member since Dec 2006
25 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 4:04 pm to
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Look Reb... Just count your blessings and don't get too cocky. Ole Miss didn't look like much last night. LSU just happened to look worse



Im certainly not being cocky.....as much as you would like to believe it, im not that guy. I don't hate LSU. I hate Alabama. Im not sure how you could say that we didn't play well. We had 440 yards of offense, didn't turn the ball over, and had virtually every bounce go against us. And still found a way to win it.

And let's be honest.....us playing well in VH against LSU doesn't happen often. We typically play you much better in Baton Rouge for whatever reason.
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Do you guys truly believe you were the better team on the field last night?


Your offense is better than ours this year, but our defense is better than your defense.

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2) Do you truly believe that had Miles called the timeout when 24 seconds were still on the clock, that the outcome would have been different?


Changing the game by calling a time out earlier, we probably don't complete the hailmary--your right.

While we weren't the better team last night, we are the better program and will continue to challange for SEC Championships, while your Rebels have no chance at an SEC championship--no flame intended.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36094 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 4:09 pm to
This "serious question" is the 'bama argument all over again.

"Sure, you got screwed/screwed yourself out of one last opportunity, but shouldn't you just resign yourselves to the fact that you were supposed to lose?"

frick you. The game doesn't go to the team with the most yards or the best defensive percentage. You play till the end and take every opportunity to get the majority of the points.
Posted by olemiss33
Member since Dec 2006
25 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Do you guys truly believe you were the better team on the field last night?




Your offense is better than ours this year, but our defense is better than your defense.


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2) Do you truly believe that had Miles called the timeout when 24 seconds were still on the clock, that the outcome would have been different?




Changing the game by calling a time out earlier, we probably don't complete the hailmary--your right.

While we weren't the better team last night, we are the better program and will continue to challange for SEC Championships, while your Rebels have no chance at an SEC championship--no flame intended.


It would be difficult to argue any of your points, except the one about your defense being better. You are without question the better program. You will, in most years, challenge for SEC and National titles. I just don't believe either will happen with Miles at the helm. It is his players now, and IMO, there is a noticeable difference in your talent level from just 2 years ago.

As for your defense being better, numbers simply don't support that. You can say stats don't matter, but I disagree when taken over 10 games. We are allowing 310 yds/game. You are allowing 322. We are allowing 16.5 ppg. You are allowing 14.7. Those numbers seem to me to show two defenses that are very similar. In fact, I believe our front seven are much better than yours, with you having an astronomical advantage in the secondary.
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