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re: Scout article on Lee not playing.

Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by LSUlunatic
Member since Dec 2006
6833 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:31 pm to
A true freshman insinuating his coach fricked up.

Feels like the sky is falling.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5906 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:31 pm to
All I can say to this is damn.
Thanks Jarrett Lee and all the seniors for a special year.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
Swamps of Lafourche
Member since Aug 2008
7837 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:39 pm to
Pretty interesting article
Posted by LSUtigersarefun
Member since Aug 2009
9602 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

A true freshman insinuating his coach fricked up. Feels like the sky is falling.

I know I am in the minority here, but these players sacrifice a lot to play college football, sure there are benefits but they are not receiving their true market value. I think he has every right to call out someone who is getting paid 4.1 million dollars, and who he is trusting with his body with.

I know I have second guessed decisions my coach has made before and when I was a coach there were decisions I made that should have been second guessed and were. Only one thing to do, say I am sorry I made a mistake, players Fans and the entire LSU family I apologize.
Posted by 4everLSU
Central LA
Member since Feb 2005
287 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:44 pm to
I hope he's not relegated to the doghouse next season for his comments.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:45 pm to
It verifies what our eyes have seen. The offense is better with Lee and the wide receivers productivity goes up when Lee plays

The WR know it.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2971 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

It made me sad reading about Lee talking about those first 9 games. I remembered the excitement in the program and the wild ride. Then watching it slowly revert back to 2010 as JJ's playing time continued to increase.
this....
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:58 pm to
So we can add this to miles personnel decision that we have questioned:

continuing to run a hurt hester against kentucky when charles scott was on fire.
forcing Lee to pass against tech when K. williams was on fire.
Playing lee too long in the 2008 season
Playing JJ too long last night.

I havent' been a JL fan, but last night was shitty for that guy.. Not only for him but for the team...The Gameplan and play selection didn't help either.
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1312 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 7:06 pm to
Without Jefferson, I don't think we could have beat Alabama (in the regular season). Props to JJ for providing a spark and giving us just enough to pull out a victory.

BUT, and that's a very big BUT, I think this team took a step backwards offensively when the switch was made to JJ full time. If we could have kept Lee as the primary starter and use Jefferson as a change of pace/spot duty QB....I think the offense would have been close to unstoppable. The lack of a down field passing attack killed this offense. We were lucky to wear down opponents in the Arkansas and Georgia games. Alabama was too good for that. We wasted a good defensive effort (first half speaking) last night.
Posted by MiaTigah
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
447 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 7:40 pm to

quote:

Lee's quote near the end of the article is really classy. Waht a great kid.


JLee always has taken the high road, especially in the midst of the drama. He never threw anyone under the bus.
There really seems to be something behind the scenes that has influenced this turn of events for him.

Posted by damnstrongfan
St. George, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2009
2081 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 7:54 pm to
damn you Les Miles
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21121 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

BUT, and that's a very big BUT, I think this team took a step backwards offensively when the switch was made to JJ full time. If we could have kept Lee as the primary starter and use Jefferson as a change of pace/spot duty QB....I think the offense would have been close to unstoppable. The lack of a down field passing attack killed this offense. We were lucky to wear down opponents in the Arkansas and Georgia games. Alabama was too good for that. We wasted a good defensive effort (first half speaking) last night.


This was my point all season. Play them both. Start Lee and bring JJ in to change things up. It would have been a great solution.

We actually had JJ throwing more downfield when Lee was playing as well. He did not throw downfield hardly at all last night. It was like he was a true freshman. Horrible.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

And I believe the media and fans should demand an honest explanation from Miles on why he refused to go to Lee
It cost Miles ~$6Million and coronation as a shoe-in HOF coach of one of history's top teams. You think your fricking idiotic "demand" for an explanation means one tiny rat turd compared with that?

You guys need to frick off!

Get over it!

LSU has played brilliantly in the post season every year Miles has been here. Every single year. We finally had a bad postseason game. It sucked. No question.

I don't know that JL could have made a difference playing behind a brutally ineffective OLine. Would I have liked to see him get the chance? Absolutely! I suspect Miles felt that under pressure, JL would do what he'd done in Tuscaloosa --- Panic, throw ints, and turn a 15-0 game into a 35-0 game.

But JesusHChrist folks! The man was coach of the year!. He beat this Bama team in Tuscaloosa. He's returning the #1 team in the country next year. Had Saban not been outcoached on November 5th by the same guy y'all are suddenly happily running down, this would be widely regarded as the best team ever to take the field in Tuscaloosa. Think about it.

Last night just wasn't our night.
This post was edited on 1/10/12 at 9:08 pm
Posted by windhammontanatigers
windham-stanford, montana
Member since Nov 2009
4993 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 8:42 pm to
+100
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76475 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

It cost Miles ~$6Million and coronation as a shoe-in HOF coach of one of history's top teams. You think your fricking idiotic "demand" for an explanation means one tiny rat turd compared with that?

You guys need to frick off!

Get over it!

LSU has played brilliantly in the post season every year Miles has been here. Every single year. We finally had a bad postseason game. It sucked. No question.

I don't know that JL could have made a difference playing behind a brutally ineffective OLine. Would I have liked to see him get the chance? Absolutely! I suspect Miles felt that under pressure, JL would do what he'd done in Tuscaloosa --- Panic, throw ints, and turn a 15-0 game into a 35-0 game.

But JesusHChrist folks! The man was coach of the year!. He beat this Bama team in Tuscaloosa. He's returning the #1 team in the country next year. Had Saban not been outcoached on November 9th by the same guy y'all are suddenly happily running down, this would be widely regarded as the best team ever to take the field in Tuscaloosa. Think about it.

Last night just wasn't our night.
Well said!

Miles' decisions got us to 13-0.

But I still want to know the reasoning behind it.
Posted by LSUBS88
Member since Sep 2010
893 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 8:55 pm to
Start Lee and bring JJ in to change things up.
Same as last year but roles reversed. It seemed to work pretty well for us/JJ last year, and this year against Bama1 for us/JL. But JL should have started every other game with JJ coming in for lack of productivity, (3-4 consectutive 3 n outs) or blowouts to work on plays for when we needed him like Bama1. Not to lead the team to demise.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64655 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 8:57 pm to
The article was quoting team members reactions and you are going off on rantards. Chill.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4947 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

quote:
And I believe the media and fans should demand an honest explanation from Miles on why he refused to go to Lee
It cost Miles ~$6Million and coronation as a shoe-in HOF coach of one of history's top teams. You think your fricking idiotic "demand" for an explanation means one tiny rat turd compared with that?

You guys need to frick off!

Get over it!

LSU has played brilliantly in the post season every year Miles has been here. Every single year. We finally had a bad postseason game. It sucked. No question.

I don't know that JL could have made a difference playing behind a brutally ineffective OLine. Would I have liked to see him get the chance? Absolutely! I suspect Miles felt that under pressure, JL would do what he'd done in Tuscaloosa --- Panic, throw ints, and turn a 15-0 game into a 35-0 game.

But JesusHChrist folks! The man was coach of the year!. He beat this Bama team in Tuscaloosa. He's returning the #1 team in the country next year. Had Saban not been outcoached on November 9th by the same guy y'all are suddenly happily running down, this would be widely regarded as the best team ever to take the field in Tuscaloosa. Think about it.

Last night just wasn't our night.




Last night wasn't our night and Bama outplayed and outcoached us. We will be back and probably will have a better team next year, so the sky isn't falling people. I do have a problem with anyone who thinks we should blindly agree with Les on every decision he makes. He screwed up severely last night and there is no way you can sugar coat that. Also, how can you think Les lost $6million last night?
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 9:02 pm to
I am sure the receivers viewed what happened to Lee as a death in the family. They became afterthoughts in the game plans going forward. Heck, neither QB seemed to hold up to pressure. Contrast that with RSSoph McCarron who had the game of his life against the vaunted LSU secondary. Not one play all night from any of them.

Posted by ChinoisBandit
Member since Oct 2011
76 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 9:08 pm to
Hey NCTigah: I'm not getting over it, and will go to my grave thinking that not putting in JLee was an All- Time Les Miles Epoch Failure.
Maybe nothing would have changed, or it might have made things worse. However, we will never know because Les Miles did not give Lee a chance. Les Miles let the team down and showed a lack of leadership......
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