re: Scott Van Pelt's take on Les

Someone posted his overall record of 110-32 - I would like to know what it looked like in first half of his career vs second half - I think outsiders would be surprised

I agree with him

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Les wouldn't go 110-32 if you start counting from this week forward.

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We'll never know for sure. It somewhat makes his tenure here that much more incredible, and goes to prove what SVP said about the fan base being spoiled. We won't get that type of run again for a long time, but we still need to chase that dragon because Les has made us accustomed to it. Reading this board, it's as if we are entitled to it.

At least we'll have that fresh feeling when we go 8-5 one of these years.

Meanwhile.... Booger will be on Mike & Mike in the morning to explain why LSU needs to move on from Les Miles.

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No doubt he's right.

I think people are just frustrated with the offense, and the inability to beat Alabama.

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It would obviously be hard to top that overall record, but I think they could get someone who could challenge for more divisional titles, etc., because they would be willing to take more chances and max out on the talent at LSU rather than sticking to a formula that works against a good amount of teams, but struggles against ones with comparable talent.

Also, what Les did and what Les is doing now are two different things. I think there are a good number of coaches that could meet and exceed what Miles has been doing the last three years.

People are frustrated with the offense, but now the D and special teams are bad too. And when Miles looks calm as can be on the sidelines when we're committing stupid penalties and messing up plays, I don't think it helps his cause at all. People want to see some fire or a real desire for change, but Les isn't really giving off that impression.

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Just cut the check and find us somebody who can beat Saban.. cuz there's a lot of those right?

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I can understand this line of thinking, but 5 in a row. And 5 in a row at 4+ mill a year. Not only that, but the decline in SEC wins. 10 wins is great, but SEC wins are what matter. There has to come a time for accountability.

Look, I've fought the good fight against the negatigers. Not so much because I was so pro Miles, but mostly because 99% of them are knee jerk over reactionary dumb asses, but the time has come.

There have always been reasons, or built in excuses the past couple of years. Enough to say next year can be better. But watching these past few games play out, there are no more excuses. It's just time.

I think most of the arguments in the past have been from people that watch LSU football, but not much else, because most of the criticism are the same things that you see all over college football. But you can't be paid the way Miles is paid and fail the way we have failed.

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Please spare me the 110 wins talk because most of thus WERE NOT FUN TO WATCH

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Oh god no. We had times where we won and we melted so hard we turned into glass. Definitely squandering a bunch of talent. Let the media.talk because they haven't watched every game and they aren't even fans of LSU. If they were then they'd sing a different tune.

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but I just realized they said boosters are ready to cough up "15-18 mill" to not only buy out Les, but his entire staff as well. Any truth regarding the rest of the staff?

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Yes. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe all his staff have the "Les Miles clause" in their contracts which states they only need to be retained/paid for 6 months if Les gets fired.

I assume the new coach would bring in his own staff. But I'd think they would try to retain guys like Orgeron and Wilson if they could.

Maybe he is right, still does not excuse what has happened since the 2011 season and especially in the last 3 weeks. Feels like there are those in the media who are shrugging LSU off as if we are not worthy. Its easy for people who aren't paying close attention to use CLMs record, which is impressive but it does not tell the full story.