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re: Ryan Clark just laid a knock out blow!

Posted on 1/18/09 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by nhsj012
Member since Aug 2008
2975 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

what does the rule say? there was helmet to helmet, but it did look like Clark tried to lead with shoulder. Also, it appeared WM lowered his helmet as last second defensive posture. we'll see what the league does as it will be reviewed next week.

announcer said there is no such thing as helmet to helmet with a downfield ball carrier. i can't find the exact rule online.

Posted by zoom44
central la.
Member since Dec 2007
112 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 9:57 pm to
Announcer...Simms said there is no helmet to helmet rule down field.
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6703 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 9:57 pm to
The hit was legal. McGahee lowered his head. Clark led with his shoulder.
Posted by tigahfromtheham
On your left
Member since Jun 2005
5800 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 10:01 pm to
What was worse Clark's hit on Willis or Welker?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 10:04 pm to
welker for sure.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60261 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 10:12 pm to
Not dirty, but I still think he gets a $10-15,000 fine.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47401 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 10:14 pm to
It was a legal hit.

He just simply beat the hit out of him.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36158 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 10:22 pm to
I feel bad for McGahee. Seems like he's always battling injuries.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 10:45 pm to
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watch the helmet hit first...


But is that really the issue? Yeah...the helmets collided a fraction of a second before...but Clark was clearly leading with his right shoulder. In fact, he basically turned his body and came at him at a slight angle. What he did not do is lower his head and lead with the crown of his helmet... Plus, WM seemed to drop his head into the contact at the last moment helping to cause the helmet to helmet collision.

Vicious hit for sure...but looked clean to me.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 10:46 pm to
it was a nasty hit, but he was gunning for his head.

glad WM didn't die.

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

gunning for his head


Maybe...but it sure didn't look like he was gunning for it with his own noggin. We've all seen guys leading with their head (hell, we've all seen LaRon do it a time or three) and this didn't look like that to me.
Posted by erik
Member since Jun 2007
678 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 10:53 pm to
i dont think he was gunning for it either. it looked like it was just kinda one of those things that happen
Posted by LSULaw2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1694 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 11:22 pm to
He led with his helmet, but tried to change up right before impact, hence the very late turning motion. The slow motion replay clearly shows him approaching McGehee with his head full extended and with his helmet initiating the contact.

Leading with the helmet with the resulting helmet to helmet contact will likely net him a fine, but since it wasn't intentional and he tried to change up it shouldn't net him a suspension.

Clark's technique on the tackle was crap and he's actually lucky he walked off the field and wasn't carted off as well.

Mcgehee's movements had nothing to do with the impact, because if he hadn't ducked his head he would have been hit in the jaw by Clark's helmet; would have been just as vicious if not more.
Posted by Sasquatch
Dallas
Member since Feb 2005
60 posts
Posted on 1/18/09 at 11:39 pm to
Please refrain from posting as you obviously have no idea what "leading with your helmet" means....

As you claim to be a law student, i feel sorry for whomever is paying for your legal education...as your analytical skills SUCK!!
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47795 posts
Posted on 1/19/09 at 1:20 am to
You just got dissed by Sasquatch
Posted by fanrun
Omaha, Ne
Member since Jan 2008
1277 posts
Posted on 1/19/09 at 7:51 am to
media would have made it a big deal if the hit was interpreted as dirty. Media did not try to bill it as such; case closed.
Posted by footballislife
Member since Mar 2007
3907 posts
Posted on 1/19/09 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Clark was clearly leading with his right shoulder
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 1/19/09 at 8:03 am to
quote:

Announcer...Simms said there is no helmet to helmet rule down field.

Helmet to helmet is often unavoidable when tackling a ball carrier and is not a penalty. It's a penalty on a defenseless player or the QB. Linemen bang helmets on almost every play.

It was a legal hit and I don't think there will be a fine. He turned and led with his right shoulder before the helmets clashed.

This post was edited on 1/19/09 at 8:05 am
Posted by footballislife
Member since Mar 2007
3907 posts
Posted on 1/19/09 at 8:19 am to
quote:

He turned and led with his right shoulder before the helmets clashed.


Correct. Given the injury that followed and the national stage that this hit took place on, the national media would be non-stop on this story this morning if they thought it was a bad hit.
Posted by starlight
A beach somewhere in the Caribbean
Member since Oct 2008
2037 posts
Posted on 1/19/09 at 8:51 am to
He led with his shoulders, the helmet on helmet was just because they both were going so fast. Even the announcers were saying it was a legal hit.
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