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Running list of Joe Alleva's accomplishments at LSU. Positives & Negatives

Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:25 pm
Trying to keep it legit.

Positives:

Hiring of Will Wade. Buyout is questionable, though
Hiring of Beth Torina
Adding sand volleyball
Building tennis facilty
Building gymnastics facility

Negatives:

Hiring process of Ed Orgeron
Hiring of Johnny Jones
Not firing Les at the end of 2015*
Tennis violations
Football parking disaster
Not firing the volleyball coach
Not firing Caldwell
Dumpster fire that is our non-conference football schedule
Constant delays on the nutritional center*

*IMO, a competent AD would have led to a different outcome

This list does not include his handling of the Duke Lacross rape scandal, which, IMO, should have precluded him from getting the job in the first place.

Please feel free to add.


Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70225 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:26 pm to
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Hiring of Beth Torina


I will give him credit for Torina, but with the asterisk acknowledging the circus that preceded it.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158757 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:26 pm to
I'm beginning to not even credit him for Wade, as it more sounds like Wade pursued this job more than anything. Now sure he still needed to make the hire, but when you're at your lowest point and a young up and comer is screaming hire me, it makes things easier.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10482 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:27 pm to
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Positives:

Hiring of Will Wade.


Maybe we should let him actually coach a basketball game first...
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:28 pm to
More negs:

Got sued by your tennis coach
Didn't adminstrate Chief's contract correctly thus resulting in a dispute that has to be litigated
Wanted to oust Miles by holding the staff hostage, thus resulting in the 2015 season with Kevin Steele
Losing the power struggle with Les resulting in the 16 season
Allowing Les to re-sign Cam for some reason
Going to tradition fees for basketball right as Trent Johnson was about to nuke the program.

Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:29 pm to
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I will give him credit for Torina, but with the asterisk acknowledging the circus that preceded it.


Even arguably his greatest accomplishment was marred by a complete fricking clusterfrick.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30972 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:29 pm to
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This list does not include his handling of the Duke Lacross rape scandal, which, IMO, should have precluded him from getting any other job in the first place.


FIFY
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:29 pm to
Nobody who isn't a rantard and outside the rant gives a shite about your severe delusions.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24603 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Not firing Les at the end of 2015


I don't blame him for this, he wanted to it was the national media and our cuck governor who pressured him into keeping miles. All the drama on TV with carrying him off the field etc etc.

Now the process of hiring a new coach is all on him...utter disaster and should be fired on that decision alone.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

I don't blame him for this, he wanted to it was the national media and our cuck governor who pressured him into keeping miles. All the drama on TV with carrying him off the field etc etc.


You have to blame it on him. If you KNOW you don't have the winning cards, going all in is incredibly stupid.
Posted by Circus Child
Loc
Member since Aug 2003
3684 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

I'm beginning to not even credit him for Wade, as it more sounds like Wade pursued this job more than anything. Now sure he still needed to make the hire, but when you're at your lowest point and a young up and comer is screaming hire me, it makes things easier.


Come on. He likely had more to do with the basketball hire than the football head coach hire. You guys act like coach O was his man and he said forget the rest of the candidates. Alleva was likely told that coach o was the man after things played out behind the scenes.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158757 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:36 pm to
Alleva kept lowering the bar of expectations for O to get the job, the sham of a search has always lead me to believe he wanted O to be the hire from the start.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:37 pm to
Someone needs to watch his bank account if LSU pays any buyout money to O.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24603 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:39 pm to
Bottom line is Alleva treated the biggest money maker for the athletic dept like the LSU hockey team when hiring a new coach he simply didn't give two shits about who to hire, his lazy arse just didn't wanna put in the work.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66427 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:41 pm to
I'll give Alleva credit for Wade. But he botched CJJ sooooo...
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45113 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:47 pm to
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I'll give Alleva credit for Wade.


Why???? I keep seeing people say this but what has Wade done? Yes he has brought a lot of talent but they have yet to play a single game. I give him a incomplete so far.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Why???? I keep seeing people say this but what has Wade done? Yes he has brought a lot of talent but they have yet to play a single game. I give him a incomplete so far.


Even if it doesn't work out, I give him credit for pulling the trigger on Jones and making a hire that at least looked legitimate at the time it was made.
Posted by Kjun Tiger
Member since Dec 2014
2147 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 1:02 pm to
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Space Cowboy


quote:

Nobody who isn't a rantard and outside the rant gives a shite about your severe delusions.


Joe... Is that you?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Dumpster fire that is our non-conference football

Agree with everything except this
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67903 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:33 pm to
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I will give him credit for Torina, but with the asterisk acknowledging the circus that preceded it.



No disrespect with Torina but at the time at that very moment, we had zero idea we would be this good under her. Compare her and Murphy's resume at the time and its not even close.


Luckily it turned out to be the best to happen to LSU softball. Softball team as well as gymnastics have been the most successful sports on campus by far


he completely lucked out, have a difficult time tryin to credit him
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 2:36 pm
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