Man, thanks for all of the discussion guys (not to mention the encouraging thanks for posting this thread, I really appreciate it). Can't respond to all of the comments, but I'll try to pick a few, starting with this awesome post by epbart

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LSU football is like John McClane in Die Hard, getting his nose bloodied and seemingly outwitted through most of the game (and probably hungover), but generally scrapping and bludgeoning his way to victory.

Such an awesome description. Great call, thanks for posting :cheers

I also agree with your assessment that even though other top teams give up similar types of drives and plays and struggle with lesser teams, LSU ultimately feels like we are more threatened in the end by those lapses. Primarily, I think it's because we're LSU fans, so it obviously feels more ominous for us than watching another play when we don't really care what happens either way.

But I also feel as though all of the negativity that LSU and Miles have had to endure since 1/9 makes it more real, and actually carries onto the field for the players. After dominating for 25 minutes, the two plays all of a sudden make it a 17-14 game, and there was a real sense of dread that you could kind of see on the players' faces.

It almost looks like they're sitting there saying, man, I wonder what the Rant Score Board looks like right now. It's one of the curses of having such a popular and well run site like Tigerdoppings, the players are on these boards too, just like any other college kid.

But there has been so much doubt and negativity surrounding Miles, the offense, and especially the QB position for so long, that when a play like the sack fumble/INT happens, and the game seems close for a second, it really feels like all of the players feel like we do as fans in those moments because so many fans have been so critical for so long, which I don't think seems as pronounced for other teams where the coach has more support.

It's like doubt creeps in, and we all start thinking oh no is Dupre upset that he came here, are we going to lose Franks, etc. I don't see those same concerns when Ohio State struggles with Indiana or Bama's D gets shredded in another shootout loss. It's just the ebb and flow of the game, where here, it's catastrophe syndrome.

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Posted on 10/6/15 at 5:59 am to Catman88

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He blocked very well against Cuse and Auburn but that play you speak was a half assed block thrown on a player that was already way out of the play. Then he walked off the field without a care. I have a problem with that. He should not be lauded for that block.

I mean, I don't know what else to tell you, but you're wrong. It most certainly was not a half assed block. He dropped his shoulder right into dude running full speed just a couple of yards directly behind LF. And his path made two other defenders adjust course as well.

Like I said, LF may well outrun them all anyway, but LF actually took the path directly toward Dural knowing he could take out any trailers, and Dural is already lowering his shoulder as LF runs by him, that's how close the guy was to LF.

And no, he didn't just walk off the field. The replay from the end zone view clearly shows Dural following LF at a jog right over his shoulder until LF is almost in the end zone. What he did after that I have no idea, but he didn't just walk off the field.

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I agree with Hawkins here. (BTW Hawkins knows a thing or two about football)

He fell away from the ball expecting it to just fall to him instead of attacking the ball.

No, he didn't. He fell almost backwards because he was trying to correct back to the under thrown ball and kind of went to the ground almost like he was laying down backwards. He didn't fall "away" from the ball.

And I'm not saying Hawkins doesn't know a lot about football. But he is not a good announcer. He often contradicted himself in the same sentence and just harped over and over on the "attacking" for the receivers because like so many announcers he said it once and liked how it sounded so stuck with it, even when it had little to do with the play being talked about. It was pretty amateur in a talking point kind of way, which is why he is on the ESPNU crew for an SEC vs EMU game instead of one of the major SEC clashes of the day.

Not all coaches make good commentators, no matter how much they know about football.

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Posted on 10/6/15 at 6:19 am to BayouBengals327

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We attempted a pass less than 20 times in the whole game against EMU. 15 passing attempts is considered working on the passing game a lot? Only at LSU

Well, you're only talking about pass attempts, not pass plays called. Several more ended in sacks or scrambles. And we were on pace for 28 attempts after the first half, but the way the second half played out, we just didn't need to pass much, and given how little success we were having, it was safer to secure the win with the run game, which was dominating.

But I can assure you, we got plenty of work on the passing game in the first half. It was probably the most pass heavy game plan we've had since Mett.

And clearly, we needed it. At all levels, WRs, QB, and OL. I'm pretty sure after all of the work we got on film, this will be the most productive week in practice we've had on the passing game in over a year. I expect to see a ton of improvement this weekend based on all the reps we can grade out and improve on

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This. That was a TD all day long if he continues the route into the endzone.

Ok, but what if that wasn't the route that was called?? Dural was standing at the 6 yard line as that pass is sailing over his head several yards into the end zone.

I'm not saying Dural ran the right route, I'm just saying as it played out, it was obviously either a miscommunication, or a bad throw.

We don't have all the needed information to know who messed up on that play. But the coaches address it in film session and it will be cleared up between Harris and Dupre.

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we were in a close game to the 4th quarter with Eastern Michigan. The week after doing the same thing against Syracuse. This despite having a 200 yard rusher in both games.
That's all fine and dandy if you just want to watch some football and have a good team to root for. It's not good if you want to win a championship, because if we had a championship defense, those games would not have been as close as they were.

Again, the game wasn't really "close". LSU answered with scores every time EMU scored.

As for our defense, it was excellent other than the bad series on the scoring drive to get to 30-22. (After LSU scored a TD on the next drive to get back to 37-22, the defense then made up for that drive with a pick six on the following drive to put the game away at 44-22).

The response was immediate.

The only reason the game was close at all was because of the sack fumble/INT that gave EMU the ball at the 5. It just sucked that it happened right before halftime so we were left hanging feeling like the game was in doubt, which LF quickly cleared up on the first play of the 3rd.

The D held EMU, no one ever said they had a bad offense btw, to 255 yards, and if you take away the one bad series of the night, they had less than 200 yards, less than 100 both rushing and passing.

They forced three turnovers, and scored a touchdown.

Sure, no one will crown them a championship defense based on what they do against EMU, but they certainly didn't do anything in that game to be questioned, especially seeing as how the front seven was in an almost constant rotation in order to develop much needed depth

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