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re: Remember the awesome LSU Saban years ? Ahhh The Salad Days of Yore...
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:37 pm to jdd267
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:37 pm to jdd267
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While i agree that we wouldnt be where we are if not for Saban, would it be true that Bear Bryant made Alabama what it is (prestige wise), and Saban benefits from that ? OF COURSE NOT !!!
Saban did a great job at LSU. Les is also doing a hell of a job...
or, Saban is just winning with the Bear's program
what was the gap between bear retiring and saban taking over?
what was the gap between saban leaving and miles taking over?
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:37 pm to ApexTiger
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Good post, I agree, I think Saban has just gotten better as a coach since leaving LSU
There's no denying that Saban is a great coach. He did what he did at LSU and then took the same system/philosophy to one of the most storied programs in college football history. He put a recruiting wall around Louisiana to create a great team in BR. Now, the whole country is his for the picking at Bama.
Miles (and Chavis too) made some bad decisions yesterday, but they made a helluva lotta good ones too. The game plan was solid and the team fired on most cylinders.
We are lucky to have Coach Miles, imperfections and all.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:38 pm to Lsupimp
Saban is a much better coach now than he was then. So is Miles. Coaches either improve and keep improving or get fired.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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saban was building the program in 2004 still
So in December 2004 against Iowa we were rebuilding and September against Arizona State we were built.
I know I shouldn't be amazed but still I'm amazed.
But what can I do.
Revisionists are gonna revision.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:41 pm to BeeFense5
You must be bad with comprehension.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:42 pm to 225bred
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LSU would be the powerhouse that Bama is now if Nick would've stayed. FACT.
No, it's conjecture, not fact. And even if you believe that, what's the point of living in that mindset? My sex life would be better if my wife had bigger tits, but she doesn't. Move. The. frick. On.
ETA: there is a very fine line separating LSU and Bama right now. FACT.
This post was edited on 11/4/12 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:43 pm to Lsupimp
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So in December 2004 against Iowa we were rebuilding and September against Arizona State we were built.
the cap one bowl was a shite show b/c he was already gone. he should have never coached that game. should have just left
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and September against Arizona State we were built.
we were absolutely stacked in 2005. our losses that year were due to miles' stupidity.
we were stacked in 2004, except for QB. that problem was solved in 2005
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:43 pm to 225bred
Saban is where he is because of LSU. Dont think he would be at Bama if he wasnt at LSU 1st
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:45 pm to 225bred
quote:And you think Saban is keeping us elite today after how many years?
I'm talking about now that we are elite
quote:Well, you can't have it both ways, is Saban still recruiting for us or is Les or is nobody?
if you don't think LSU sells itself then you're a fricking idiot
And i think you said earlier that this would also be the case with any "moron HC"? Ever thought of going into politics?
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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what was the gap between bear retiring and saban taking over?
what was the gap between saban leaving and miles taking over?
The bottom line is that it takes a great coach to keep a good thing going. He has to be good in his own right. This isn't Dennis Erickson winning a championship in his first year with JJ's players. Miles just went 13-0 in his 7th season before having to play a Saban-led team twice in a season, which I don't think any coach in the country would be successful against.
Miles' team right now has almost zero to do with Saban, other than it was Saban's foresight that built up LSU's facilities and put them on par with the national powers. The kids that Miles recruits were 8 when Saban was at LSU. Most of them don't know or care about his time with LSU. Kids today don't give a damn about what a team did 10 years ago.
Miami had a ridiculous run of success, as recently as 10 years ago. There's no rule that says that it will continue regardless of who is at the helm.
This post was edited on 11/4/12 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the cap one bowl was a shite show b/c he was already gone. he should have never coached that game. should have just left
Well what about the Georgia game in 2004. The one we lost by 30 ? Should he have coached that ? Or the loss to Auburn where our offense was in reverse the whole game ? Should he have sat that one out too ? Or how about the 4 point win against Troy ? Should Saban have intentionally missed the team bus over to Tiger Stadium for that game too ?
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:51 pm to jdd267
Hell yeh I think Saban benefits from what Bear did at Bama. When recruiting top prospects it must be nice to sell your traditions to the recruits. Couple that with what Saban has done and that Bama will spare nothing to be the best and you get the best recruits.
Great players make coaches great.
Great players make coaches great.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:53 pm to Lsupimp
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Well what about the Georgia game in 2004.
revenge for 2003. UGA may have been the 2nd best team in the country in 2003, and we broke their hearts...twice
that was a fluke game. UGA was just on. even that lazy piece of shite WR they had was playing his arse off
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Or the loss to Auburn where our offense was in reverse the whole game ?
AU was a better team than us and we had shitty QB play.
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Or how about the 4 point win against Troy ?
how about the 2008 game v. Troy?
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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uh, we had flynn and JR as RS freshman in 2004. saban did his job at recruiting QBs
who was ready in 2004...Randall, Ricard, Clauson? I think everyone pretty much knew Mauck was gone after 2003, he had nothing left to do in school, was married and in his mid-20's.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
You're doing a great job on justifying all of Saban's frickups. Great job.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
There is no leap through The Burning Hoop Of Silliness that your mind is unprepared to take .
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:58 pm to Ole Geauxt
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Well, you can't have it both ways, is Saban still recruiting for us or is Les or is nobody?
You really don't understand his point?
LSU is relevant. Recruits think of the best teams in the country and LSU is in the top 5. It is because of what Saban built.
Tell me how great Miles recruiting classes were at Ok. St. were if the perception of the school isn't a factor. If he is a great recruiter he should be able to get tem wherever he is.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:59 pm to Lsupimp
Why does slamming Saban help you feel better. Had Saban never left: LSU probably wins national titles in 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2011.
Let that sink in.
Let that sink in.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:59 pm to Topwater Trout
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Tell me how great Miles recruiting classes were at Ok. St. were if the perception of the school isn't a factor. If he is a great recruiter he should be able to get tem wherever he is.
It's quite obvious that you have no clue what Miles took over when he got to Okie St.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:00 pm to theunknownknight
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Why does slamming Saban help you feel better.
Why does going down on Saban make you feel better?
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