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Refunds and the Tradition Fund
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:16 pm
So my wife and I are both vaccinated and are planning on attending every game this season. I generally don't have a problem with the whole proof of vaccination or masks either, so that doesn't really concern me. What does though is this rumor I've heard about refunds. As SoloTiger said yesterday, there's allegedly 2 options:
I haven't seen any official word from LSU about how they're going to do refunds but this seems like a really shitty thing to do to people who might want to sit this season out. A more equitable solution would be to allow these fans to roll their Tradition Fund over to next season without punishing them by (what feels like) stealing their seats. Last season was unprecedented not just here but nationwide, but the average ticket holder stuck by their Tigers. To force them to forfeit their aptly named "Tradition Fund".. some of which are several hundred dollars, is unfair to generations of season ticket holders.
I don't know if any of this is official yet, as according to LSU's covid policy, "Season ticket holders with questions regarding refund policies must email tickets@lsu.edu by Friday, August 27." But if it hasn't been officially decided to just knife these people in the back, I for one hope they change this policy before it's too late.
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1. Full refund of Tradition Fund and Season Ticket cost. If you choose this option you will give up your rights to those specific seats moving forward.
2. Partial Refund of Season Ticket cost. This means you will not receive a refund of your Tradition Fund, but you reserve the rights to your seats moving forward.
I haven't seen any official word from LSU about how they're going to do refunds but this seems like a really shitty thing to do to people who might want to sit this season out. A more equitable solution would be to allow these fans to roll their Tradition Fund over to next season without punishing them by (what feels like) stealing their seats. Last season was unprecedented not just here but nationwide, but the average ticket holder stuck by their Tigers. To force them to forfeit their aptly named "Tradition Fund".. some of which are several hundred dollars, is unfair to generations of season ticket holders.
I don't know if any of this is official yet, as according to LSU's covid policy, "Season ticket holders with questions regarding refund policies must email tickets@lsu.edu by Friday, August 27." But if it hasn't been officially decided to just knife these people in the back, I for one hope they change this policy before it's too late.
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:26 pm to Giantkiller
Oh its legit and I've sent off my request to get my full refund. I'll keep my money for future seasons too. Not the smartest move as the demand for season tickets has been on the decline around the country. This will only push those on the fence away. Season ticket holders around coming back anytime soon with the prices as they are, restrictions, parking, banning of tailgating in areas, and crackdown of fun in general on gamedays over the last few years.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:26 pm to Giantkiller
Again, I know there's a lot of questions about the refund policy - but has this specifically been asked yet? And if not, is there going to be any official answers?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:30 pm to SocialDelinquent
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Not the smartest move as the demand for season tickets has been on the decline around the country. This will only push those on the fence away. Season ticket holders around coming back anytime soon with the prices as they are, restrictions, parking, banning of tailgating in areas, and crackdown of fun in general on gamedays over the last few years.
I read LSU had the most ever season ticket requests for this season, and sold 70,000.
I tend to agree that they are being somewhat unfair for those who want to opt out; however, this pandemic won't last forever and I don't doubt they will be able to resale those seats with the expanded SEC on the horizon.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:35 pm to jbraua
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I tend to agree that they are being somewhat unfair for those who want to opt out; however, this pandemic won't last forever and I don't doubt they will be able to resale those seats with the expanded SEC on the horizon.
Perhaps not, but this seems especially vicious. And it's not gonna hurt me personally. I've already got sitters lined up. We're going to the games. It's just a really REALLY shitty thing to do to say...the old folks from St Tammany who sit behind me, who's dad had the tickets since the 1930's. Or the 70 year old army vet who sits in our row who might want to sit this season out.
If the policy is really this definite, it's wrong to treat people this way and it needs to be mentioned.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:55 pm to Giantkiller
<——— Family has had season tickets since 72. Getting full refund. No plans of returning to TS in the foreseeable future. Disappointed and disgusted with the whole university. If you’re not that’s A-ok with me. My body, my choice.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:56 pm to Giantkiller
quote:But there's going to be vaccination requirements next season also. Power-hungry bureaucrats aren't going to give this up.
A more equitable solution would be to allow these fans to roll their Tradition Fund over to next season without punishing them by (what feels like) stealing their seats.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:07 pm to Giantkiller
Not taking any side here, but LSU had 45-50,000 season ticket holders opt out last year that got full refunds with no ramifications. The Athletic Budget shortfall was somewhere between 60-80 million dollars due to Covid.
I don't think LSU was willing to do another full refund policy after last year and hold peoples' place in line.
Season ticket renewals were down 4,000 compared to 2019. TBH, when I renewed my tickets, I could have relocated just about anywhere in the stadium so I don't think the folks who lose their place in line will have trouble getting back in, it just may be a better seat or it may be a worse seat.
The vaccination policy may last a game, a month, or the whole season. Folks just need to do what's best for them.
I don't think LSU was willing to do another full refund policy after last year and hold peoples' place in line.
Season ticket renewals were down 4,000 compared to 2019. TBH, when I renewed my tickets, I could have relocated just about anywhere in the stadium so I don't think the folks who lose their place in line will have trouble getting back in, it just may be a better seat or it may be a worse seat.
The vaccination policy may last a game, a month, or the whole season. Folks just need to do what's best for them.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:37 pm to SocialDelinquent
Me too
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:42 pm to doomsday
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The Athletic Budget shortfall was somewhere between 60-80 million dollars due to Covid.
Can't feel too sorry for them. Lots of people were disgusted with all of the SJW/woke things they did last year.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:45 pm to Giantkiller
I would have opted out and don’t care about tickets this year. Can get new seats next year. But the kick in the balls is if you demand a refund you lose parking. I worked hard for 26 years of season tickets and lose my parking spot. The parking is so hard to get again
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:51 pm to SocialDelinquent
Lol take a covid test. Jesus y’all are some cry baby bitches lol.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:53 pm to Russ337
Again, the covid PCR test takes 3-5 days for results and they want a 72 hours prior. That’s impossible
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:55 pm to doomsday
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Not taking any side here, but LSU had 45-50,000 season ticket holders opt out last year that got full refunds with no ramifications. The Athletic Budget shortfall was somewhere between 60-80 million dollars due to Covid.
LSU obviously took it on the chin but so did every college, every pro sport, every concert venue... hell - everybody on earth. Whether you agree with it or not, the government has been holding everybody's hand financially to the spoils of everybody else trying to run a business. If that's fair, then ripping the bandaid off like LSU is allegedly doing here isn't the right thing to do.
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I don't think LSU was willing to do another full refund policy after last year and hold peoples' place in line.
Like I said, we've all suffered. And the policy on its face might be an ok one in the long run. But announcing it (or actually not announcing it, as there's still no word on this publicly) a week before the season begins is downright savage to the generations of fans and alums who have supported you. Giving fans a warning that this is coming next season would be a little more fair but at the least, far less cruel.
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Season ticket renewals were down 4,000 compared to 2019
And if they plan on just throwing season ticket holders away like this, how bright is that future? I've been going to games since 1984 and I don't plan on stopping. Watching LSU treat their fanbase like this might change that way of thinking as time goes on though.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:02 pm to Russ337
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Lol take a covid test. Jesus y’all are some cry baby bitches lol.
What is your concern about me requesting a refund? That's my choice instead of getting a PCR test for seven games and hoping it comes back in time. It sure sounds like you are bitching about my choice, which makes you the ultimate bitch.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:34 pm to Giantkiller
The options given are important, at this late date they do seem weak. My concern would be not offering a option if tradition fees are keep this year. A option to keep ticket on account for next year. LSU could offer a $100 off each account next year that chooses this option.. A offer of good faith with the fans , who have supported this university for years. I’m just saying LSU needs to offer something with this environment.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:46 pm to 24chevrolet48
I think what you have to understand is this wasn’t LSU’s decision and they held of as long as they could trying to fight it.
To be honest thats the restrictions are a light as they are, given the political climate, is impressive.
To be honest thats the restrictions are a light as they are, given the political climate, is impressive.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:57 pm to Giantkiller
Can't argue with anything that you're saying but your main point of contention seems to be LSU' loyalty to its long time season ticket holders. As we both know, there is no loyalty anymore, companies and corporations destroyed that back in the 80's. You have to look out for No.1.
I've been going to the games since 1979. The LSU season ticket holders' loyalty was based on tenure - the people who had tickets the longest got the best seats and access to road tickets...not a bad system right?....rewarded your loyalty.
Skip Bertman as AD came in and slapped seat licenses on the tickets and you were told to pay up and if not, you could relocate or give up your tickets. Your loyalty and tenure became worthless. It was lousy, a lot of long termers gave up their tickets and got priced out of the stadium. Did LSU suffer? Of course not, they made more money and resold the tickets, just like they will with those who opt out this week.
Don't opt out from something that you enjoy just to get back at LSU because their bureaucrats do not care. If you care about the teams and student athletes and truly enjoy the product on the field, then consider the decision to continue supporting them, as they are controlled by the same bureaucracy as you and I.
I've been going to the games since 1979. The LSU season ticket holders' loyalty was based on tenure - the people who had tickets the longest got the best seats and access to road tickets...not a bad system right?....rewarded your loyalty.
Skip Bertman as AD came in and slapped seat licenses on the tickets and you were told to pay up and if not, you could relocate or give up your tickets. Your loyalty and tenure became worthless. It was lousy, a lot of long termers gave up their tickets and got priced out of the stadium. Did LSU suffer? Of course not, they made more money and resold the tickets, just like they will with those who opt out this week.
Don't opt out from something that you enjoy just to get back at LSU because their bureaucrats do not care. If you care about the teams and student athletes and truly enjoy the product on the field, then consider the decision to continue supporting them, as they are controlled by the same bureaucracy as you and I.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:00 pm to Giantkiller
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Dear Tiger Fan,
We appreciate your support of LSU Athletics, and we thank you for past patronage.
As requested, below are your options concerning a refund for your 2021 Football Season tickets:
Option 1 – Standard Refund: In accordance with our longstanding refund policy, all those who request, for any reason, refunds of their tickets, parking passes, and TAF contributions will have their payments returned in full. Ticket holders who opt for a standard refund will lose all rights to renew these items for future years. This standard refund option has been available to ticket holders in previous seasons and remains available for the 2021 season. If you are a TAF premium seating ticket holder, your contract will be voided for the remainder of the term.
Option 2 – Limited Refund: A new policy for the 2021 season, fans who opt for a Limited Refund will receive payments for the price of their tickets and parking prices only. Any Tradition Fund or TAF seat contributions for the 2021 year will be considered a donation, and ticket holder will retain their renewal rights next season at full cost. If you are a TAF premium seating ticket holder, this option will allow you to remain in your current contract.
Decisions will be applied to the account as a whole, rather than on an individual ticket-by-ticket basis. Parking and tickets will be treated the same.
If you would like exercise one of these options, please click here to fill out the refund request form. The deadline to submit your request is this Friday, August 27. A member of our sales and service team will be in contact with you as soon as possible, beginning next week.
Geaux Tigers,
LSU Ticket Office
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:19 pm to buford4LSU
Then get vaccinated .
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