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Reality of Miles tenure at LSU

Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Geauxgurt
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:17 pm
11 Years
3 BCS Bowls

In his last 8 years, Miles has made 1 BCS Bowl.

In that same time:
Bama has made 7 BCS or playoff bowl games
Florida has made 3 in that time frame
Auburn has made 2 in that time
Ole Miss has made 2 if you count the new CFP Bowl games
Arkansas has made 1

So LSU is on par with Arkansas, and behind Bama, UF, Auburn and Ole Miss under Les. That should tell people something about how he's handled the Ferrari he was handed,
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:19 pm to
Cool
Posted by windhammontanatigers
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:20 pm to
Gave you an upvote already, just wish I could upvote about 10000 times.
Posted by MarlinMan
BSL
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:26 pm to
There he is ??
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10443 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

Cool


Sorry to rain on your boy's supposed "Golden Era"

One BCS bowl game every 8 years when the team is entirely his.
Posted by MarlinMan
BSL
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:31 pm to
Sorry bro.... glad you are joining us in our misery.... sucks but it's time dude
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:31 pm to
Won with Saban talent first 3 years
Fluke 2011 year but typical Less ending
Downhill ever since
We are ole miss now except that can beat BAMA

What he has done latey is disgusting if you look at the SEC numbers
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:32 pm to
FYI...Miles' tenure is not the last 8 years
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10443 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:39 pm to
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FYI...Miles' tenure is not the last 8 years


So focusing on the first 3 is important? It is telling when a coach has great success initially and then has significantly less success in the next phase of his tenure by quite a large amount.

If you can't admit that Les has eroded LSU's program from a success standpoint since he took over, I don't know what to tell you.

If WVU beats Pitt, are you still claiming how amazing Les is?
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

So focusing on the first 3 is important?


I'm just pointing out your error. Don't get all huffy with me, Cleetus
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

If you can't admit that Les has eroded LSU's program from a success standpoint since he took over, I don't know what to tell you.


Eroded it from what point? He's had more success than any other LSU coach.

quote:

If WVU beats Pitt


But they didn't....did they?
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10443 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:47 pm to
There is no error to point out. I spefically stated his last 8 years and compared them to other programs in that time.

LSU is tied for 5th in the SEC yet has the highest paid coaching staff in the country.

So no, you didn't correct any error. You simply tried to ignore the realities within those statements as usual when it comes to the apple of your eye.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10443 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:52 pm to
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Eroded it from what point? He's had more success than any other LSU coach.



Defined as what? 10 win seasons? BCS bowl games?

For a guy that has been here 11+ years, you love to tout his record, but when its counted, he's proven that without someone else ensuring a well-rounded team based on sound recruiting strategy, his teams will underachieve.

quote:

But they didn't....did they?


Yup, first team in 50 years to win a national title with 2-losses both to unranked teams entirely because of flukes throughout the season.

You can appreciate the title, while still understanding that it was a fluke in the end.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

He's had more success than any other LSU coach.
Nick Saban is better.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

Defined as what? 10 win seasons? BCS bowl games?



Overall success

quote:

Yup, first team in 50 years to win a national title with 2-losses both to unranked teams entirely because of flukes throughout the season.



What happened after those 2 games?
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:55 pm to
Nick Saban is a better coach than Les Miles, Choctaw. Say it. First step to recovery. I know it hurts, but you have to try. Say it.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 11:56 pm
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:58 pm to
I've been saying this for years and was typically down voted. Just amazing
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:59 pm to
I know Saban is a better coach. But Miles is the most successful coach at LSU. You can admit it...it's ok.



Can't believe I just responded to someone who is actually hoping LSU loses
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 12:01 am to
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Can't believe I just responded to someone who is actually hoping LSU loses
I love LSU and want them to win out. I just don't believe they will, and if/when they don't, I want a new coach. That's a huge difference from wanting LSU to lose.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10443 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 12:02 am to
quote:

Overall success


What does that mean?

Saban had 2 SEC Titles and 2 Sugar Bowl wins in 5 years.

Miles has 2 SEC Titles and 2 Sugar Bowl wins in 11 years.

So if you go by hardware, then Les is no better than Saban despite coaching more than twice as many years and taking over a team in a hell of a lot better shape.

Saban had 1 NC in 5 years, Miles got 1 in 11 years.

Again, he doesn't have the most wins.

Dietzel had 2 SEC Titles and 1 NC as well. So, I fail to see where Miles is the most overall success.

Again, Miles tenure at LSU is a case study in wasted talent.
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