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RB Rotation: Post from the Score Board

Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26647 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:49 pm
This was my post from the Score Board addressing how we utilize our RBs and I don't think it was seen by many.

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I read this garbage the other day and seriously LOLed at how Cam, Miles and Wilson actually believe this is good.

I wasn't going to post it because I thought Fournette may have earned the lion share after NMST, but I was very wrong.


LINK


quote:

Stored away in a vault somewhere at the LSU Football Operations Center, there has to be some top-secret formula the Tigers’ offensive coaches use to rotate a stable of talented running backs from game to game and play to play.

Then again, maybe there isn’t.

Which is exactly what Les Miles and his coaching staff want: to keep their tailbacks fresh and keep defensive coordinators guessing who’ll be on the field for any given snap.

It’s such a well-guarded plan that not even the tailbacks themselves know the rhyme or reason behind the rotation, senior Terrence Magee said.

“Your guess is as good as mine,” Magee said when asked how the rotation works. “The depth chart is etched in sand here. You never know who’s going to go (on the field).”



Keeping fresh is a joke. These guys are in two, maybe three plays at the most, then you don't see them for another series or two.

Here are some things Magee and Porter said.

quote:

“It could be Kenny and Darrel, or me and Leonard,” Magee said. “You never know who coach Frank is going to put in when we’re on the sideline.”

Magee said the tailbacks never know when it’s their turn.

“You’re standing there, watch a couple of plays and he (Wilson) calls your number and you run out there,” he said. “You don’t hear the play call, you hear him calling your number.”

But as far as who that might be, Porter, like Magee, said he has no clue as to how the coaches arrive at their decision.

“It depends on how they feel, and who has a hot hand,” Porter said. “It’s whatever coach Miles and coach Frank want to do … I’m with them. We just want our guys to take it the distance every time.”




Hot hand my rump. Fournette gets a 10 yard gain, then comes out so Magee can run for one yard.


People can say what they want, but we have never swapped out RBs as ridiculous as this before. In 2011, Ware was averaging 18 carries while Ford was 2nd with 9 a game. Same with Blue and Hilliard in 2012 (before Blue was injured), then Hill took over a couple games later.

We've never really run a true committee approach except in the second half of 2011 (after Ware's suspension and Hilliard's emergence). What we have ran, is a two back system, with one guy getting the majority of carries. We have never done this platoon shite to start the season under Miles. The only teams that do shite like this, are triple option teams.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:56 pm to
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The only teams that do shite like this, are triple option teams.


that's LSU offense without the option
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36372 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:56 pm to
LSU
L. Fournette 66 364 5.5 4
K. Hilliard 61 309 5.1 5

Bama
T. Yeldon 77 407 5.3 2
D. Henry 70 357 5.1 2

Aub
C. Artis-Payne 110 594 5.4 5
N. Marshall 58 392 6.8 4

Ole Miss
J. Walton 40 238 6.0 3
I. Mathers 33 152 4.6 2

M State
J. Robinson 79 592 7.5 6
D. Prescott 85 455 5.4 6

TAMU
T. Williams 42 287 6.8 4
T. Carson 43 244 5.7 4

Arkansas
A. Collins 86 621 7.2 6
J. Williams 66 486 7.4

(^ Arkansas is going to kick our shite in.)


Besides Auburn, everyone seems to be doing the same thing - stat wise. I do agree that we need to keep the hot hand in and run him into the ground but from these numbers, we don't look that bad.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 11:05 pm
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4913 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 11:00 pm to
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Keeping fresh is a joke.


I'd say everybody is still fresh when you only have 36 rushes in a game.

Nobody gets a hot hand when you cant convert third downs. That's the issue that needs resolved thent rb rotation can work itself out.
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 11:37 pm to
Agree Poppa
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10266 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 11:48 pm to
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“You’re standing there, watch a couple of plays and he (Wilson) calls your number and you run out there,” he said. “You don’t hear the play call, you hear him calling your number.”


That's disturbing. I think RB by committee can work well; just look the patriots for proof. Again, execution and coaching seems to be the issue.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26647 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:06 am to
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I think RB by committee can work well; just look the patriots for proof. Again, execution and coaching seems to be the issue.


I agree and you can see it from the Auburn game til the end of the year in 2011. Thing is, we didn't trot out every RB for 2-3 plays, then sit for 3-4 drives.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 12:10 am
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26647 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:23 am to
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Old Money


Did you honestly use QB runs as a counter for RB ROTATION? ???


First off remove QBs. You got it, ok. Next post the #3 RB carries.

You should now come to the conclusion that TAMU and Ole Miss are the only places where the #3 RB is even close to the #2 RB. Next, realize that the run game is not the focal point but just for balancing the offense for these two programs.

You should not just post stats and say Boom! Find a meaning behind those stats.

For a team whose focal point is to run run run/pass, you should try to establish a #1 and #2 RB. Just throwing RBs out during random points of time, then yanking them for 3 drives, doesn't make much sense. Our pass game looks like fried bologna and rotating backs in at random points in time make does nothing to establish rhythm for them. It's a complete clusterfrick.
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