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re: Rank the SEC Coaches

Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by bradybones24
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
593 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:55 pm to
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Problem with this list is that this season will factor in so much more than previous seasons. Such that Miles will be lower than he should be and Mullen will be higher than he should be. Also, are we talking about just a gameday coach or a program manager in general (recruiting, results, etc)?

Here is my list of coaches based on their overall program management+results on field (which obviously is a fluid ranking that can change often):

1. Saban
2. Malzahn
3. Miles
4. Spurrier (#2 historically)
5. Richt
6-7. Sumlin or Mullen (any order)
8. Freeze
9. Bielema
10. Pinkel
11-12. Jones or Stoops (any order)
13-14. Muschamp and Mason (any order)


Giving Miles credit for LSU's success over the past 10 years is like giving Joe Alleva credit for the athletic department being successful...kinda responsible but not really.
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8726 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:55 pm to
The only one on that list that is clearly better is Saban. Proof is in the accomplishments and no one else in the SEC has done more. Besides Saban, of coarse.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 1:56 pm
Posted by bradybones24
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
593 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:56 pm to
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The only one on that list that is clearly better is Saban. Proof is in the accomplishments and no one else in the SEC has done more.


You mean no one else has done les with more.

Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:57 pm to
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Giving Miles credit for LSU's success over the past 10 years is like giving Joe Alleva credit for the athletic department being successful...kinda responsible but not really.


So Miles, is not responsible for his program 10 years since he took over?

Is there any precedence for this with any other program?

I have honestly never heard anyone say that a coach 10 years after taking over a program is still not responsible for his success.

Please answer.
Posted by bradybones24
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
593 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:59 pm to
I know it sounds crazy to you guys...but wins and losses don't tell the whole story.

If florida doesn't drop that ball in the end zone Baton rouge would have their pitch forks out again today.
Posted by bradybones24
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
593 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:00 pm to
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I have honestly never heard anyone say that a coach 10 years after taking over a program is still not responsible for his success.



Plus I said kinda responsible!
Posted by JW6
Member since Jul 2013
1570 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:00 pm to

1. Nick Saban
2. Gus Malzan
3. Kevin Sumlin
4. Les miles
5. Steve spurrier
6. Dan Mullen
7. Hugh Freeze
8. Will muschamp
9. Mark Richt
10. Mike stoops
11. Gary pinkel
12. Bret Bielema
13. Butch Jones
14. Derek Mason
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

I know it sounds crazy to you guys...but wins and losses don't tell the whole story.


Coaches aren't hired and fired based off "looks". They are hired and fired based off wins.
Posted by Steely Don
Member since Oct 2007
410 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Good list. Spurrier a bit lower at this point in his career


Thanks bro! Yea, it was tough putting him that low, but he is 3-3.
Posted by bradybones24
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
593 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Coaches aren't hired and fired based off "looks". They are hired and fired based off wins


Yeah and the good coaches have longer leashes. It's no coincidence that even though he's been extremely successful the first loss is followed by the entire state calling for his job. If he didn't have a 17 million dollar buyout he'd be fired this year if he goes 6-6...which is a good possibility.

This town, the TAF, the board of supervisors, and the blind man on the corner of plank and airline have been waiting for this guy to screw up because we all know he's ridiculous.
Posted by REO Ludewagon
We Are BR
Member since Oct 2014
35 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:06 pm to
Ranked on attractiveness only, I got:

1. The Hat
2. Mark Richt
3. Nick Saban
4. Kevin Sumlin
5. Mike Stoops
6. Gus Malzan
7. Gary Pinkel
8. Will Muschamp
9. Dan Mullen
10. Steve Spurrier
11. Butch Jones
12. Derek Mason
13. Hugh Freeze
14. Bret Bielema
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

This town, the TAF, the board of supervisors, and the blind man on the corner of plank and airline have been waiting for this guy to screw up because we all know he's ridiculous.



wow

New sig quote dibs
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Mattwells90
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3562 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:06 pm to
So just checking Memphis, since you incessantly troll anything Miles on this board. Exactly why is Spurrier #2? His team got blown out by an A&m team that's been blown out twice. Bert is still winless in SEC play. Mullen has had 1 good season and he's having it when LSU and Bama are down. Sumlin hasn't won a thing yet and has been blown out just as much as Lsu has this year. Pinkel and Mizzou just got blown out to a Gurley-less UGA. Richt has disappointed UGA fans yearly. But please, continue to prove your opinion as complete BS because of your hatred for Miles.
Posted by cwahl1
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
316 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:09 pm to
Ranking Miles #1 is
but ranking Miles any lower than 5th is

To put that into words, it would take a retard to say Les Miles is not a great coach. If you think there are 3 coaches currently in the SEC who have had more success in the last 5 or so years then you would need to analyze his success and accept that youre delusional.
Posted by Mattwells90
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3562 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:10 pm to
Legit question. What has sumlin done to garner any respect?
Posted by bradybones24
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
593 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:11 pm to
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New sig quote dibs


You got it bud....and while you're at it don't leave out my predicted 6-6 record along with the fact that when they do finish this EVERYONE be talking about his 17 million dollar buyout....get dibs on that.
Posted by bradybones24
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
593 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

To put that into words, it would take a retard to say Les Miles is not a great coach. If you think there are 3 coaches currently in the SEC who have had more success in the last 5 or so years then you would need to analyze his success and accept that youre delusional.


Man did any of you watch the game on Saturday night or did you just watch the score?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:12 pm to
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You got it bud....and while you're at it don't leave out my predicted 6-6 record along with the fact that when they do finish this EVERYONE be talking about his 17 million dollar buyout....get dibs on that.


You seem to be taking the win on Saturday pretty hard man. It's ok, LSU will lose again at some point just like every other team.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:13 pm to
1. Les Miles



Everybody else

Posted by bradybones24
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
593 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

You seem to be taking the win on Saturday pretty hard man. It's ok, LSU will lose again at some point just like every other team.


Haha...no I was excited about the win. However, we may be at the point where losses will be better for this program in the long run (as silly as that sounds). I remember during Dinardo's last year thinking the same thing. Of course, it could have gotten worse but it didn't...it began the greatest run in LSU football history.

It's time for a change bro and you know it. It's funny it took all of two losses for my pro Miles buddies to jump ship again....just like they've done before.

I jumped ship when dumbass tried to call timeout to stop the clock after Laron Landry intercepted the Tennessee quarterback in '05.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 2:18 pm
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