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Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:35 am to OweO
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So the Trent Johnson era would have had different results if he would have just hired RL as an assistant coach?
he may have helped with a few players. To deny that is asinine. Plus the dude was a dynamite guard before his injuries. I'm sure none of our guards needed any extra help or direction with how nice our guard play have been in the TJ era outside of Marcus Thornton (who could just shoot it from anywhere)
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Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:36 am to Elleshoe
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OweO
quote:Jones was the point person on Randy's recruitment out of high school. There is a very clear and obvious connection/chemistry there.
How effective would Livingston be if the chemistry wasn't there between him and Jones? I am just say that I trust a head coach to bring in the guys he feels will better fit him.
This post was edited on 4/19/12 at 9:42 am
Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:36 am to Lester Earl
I want Randy at LSU and have for a while. But I don't pretend to know how good of a coach he will be, how he interviews, how Johnny feels he would work from a "chemistry" standpoint, etc.
I assume he would be a great recruiter, but I don't know that. He's never recruited a single human being before. Perhaps he needs to take a lower level college job first?
These are all just guesses.
I hope the report is wrong and Randy is on staff. But if he's not, I'm sure there were valid reasons.
I assume he would be a great recruiter, but I don't know that. He's never recruited a single human being before. Perhaps he needs to take a lower level college job first?
These are all just guesses.
I hope the report is wrong and Randy is on staff. But if he's not, I'm sure there were valid reasons.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:37 am to Elleshoe
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To deny that is asinine.
I don't deny the fact that he MIGHT have helped.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:37 am to Joe Joe Joe
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How effective would Livingston be if the chemistry wasn't there between him and Jones? I am just say that I trust a head coach to bring in the guys he feels will better fit him.
Jones was the point person on Randy's recruitment out of high school. There is a very clear and obvious connection/chemistry there.
say brah, you quoted the wrong person
Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:39 am to Lonnie4LSU
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I would be happy with RL, but what does he offer to the JJ staff that JJ doesn't?
So you can't have 2 good recruiters in the staff? The HC has greater responsibilty, so having another guy that can recruit the area is nothing but a possitive.
To be honest I'm not crazy about the hire, but apparently I'm missing something in Jones stellar record at NTU. I mean in 11 years he finished higher than 3rd in the Sun Belt West all of twice in 11 years
Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:40 am to H-Town Tiger
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To be honest I'm not crazy about the hire, but apparently I'm missing something in Jones stellar record at NTU. I mean in 11 years he finished higher than 3rd in the Sun Belt West all of twice in 11 years
so you're saying the turnaround job Jones did at UNT was not impressive?
Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:41 am to H-Town Tiger
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To be honest I'm not crazy about the hire, but apparently I'm missing something in Jones stellar record at NTU. I mean in 11 years he finished higher than 3rd in the Sun Belt
At first I didn't think it would be a good hire, but I think he is a good fit. That's the best way to explain it. He is the Anti-Trent Johnson.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:41 am to Elleshoe
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say brah, you quoted the wrong person
My bad. Fixed in thread.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:49 am to OweO
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so you're saying the turnaround job Jones did at UNT was not impressive?
He took over a crappy program and made them pretty good. Its a good job, but not spectaular.
So Carolina hired a coach from a BCS school. We should be have a better basketball program that can attrach a better coach than So Car.
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At first I didn't think it would be a good hire, but I think he is a good fit. That's the best way to explain it
I pretty much agree, still would like Livingston on the staff though.
This post was edited on 4/19/12 at 9:52 am
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:00 am to H-Town Tiger
bigboy13,
why were Livingston and Oney at St. Aug like you said? Interviewing for a position on that staff? job hunting?
why were Livingston and Oney at St. Aug like you said? Interviewing for a position on that staff? job hunting?
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:04 am to landmanner
I wondered that myself.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:06 am to landmanner
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why were Livingston and Oney at St. Aug like you said?
I do know for a fact that he was scheduled to be in Louisiana for personal matters that weekend regardless of what was going on at LSU. (he also is affiliated with an AAU team in NO that has several ST Aug players on it, may be thats why he was there? Dont know)
I also know that Randy wanted to be on the previous coaches staff and raised a lot of hell when he was not offered the job. I dont know if that has anything to do with him not getting a job or if Jones just wants to go in a differant direction.
Regardless we have to trust in that Jones knows what he is doing.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:31 am to Joe Joe Joe
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Where did I ever assert this was a simple, clear-cut process?
when you said it was dumb if he isn't a part of the staff. It's a assumption that jones would not or did not consider or choose him. Yet, we don't know the circumstances. however, if you do, please share.
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Again, it's not a money issue. Especially with some reports that LSU might offer up to $1 million for assistant coaching staff.
well, where you getting this info? hasn't been reported. is that a million of the entire staff, per position? let us in, you seem to know more than rest of us. if you are going to make statements as absolutes, then bring cred to your statements.
i've said i don't know. however, appears you are indicating you do?
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It's not like he's positioning an LSU job against a UNC/Duke job. He actively sought the LSU job and it wasn't because of bad pay. Your point is entirely irrelevant. None of this has anything to do with pay.
well, since you know all about all the options he has, what money he's been offered, what position he'd be considered for, how much he'd take, just fill us in so we won't make irrelevant points.
do we have a below par for basketball here?
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:35 am to H-Town Tiger
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To be honest I'm not crazy about the hire
I'm not wild bout us reaching out to a SBC HC either. I would have rather seen us land a HC who had been successful at a higher level.
Having said that, we can't ignore the fact JJ took over a program in the crapper almost forever and made it a yearly 20 game winner, once he had some time to recruit and build the program.
Also, we can't deny that he knows Louisiana/HS/AAU bout as well as anyone. The La. HS talent has been down in the last few seasons, but I feel LSU has to own La if it ever expects to be a national player again. We haven't gotten Mr Basketball in like 6 years. There might not have been any great players in that time, but there sure have been some we could have used.
I know some disagree, but LSU has to lock down Louisiana if we want to be relevant in college basketball again.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:45 am to OweO
quote:I would like to know the same thing. I looked up his resume and didn't find it all that impressive.
Why do people want Livingston so bad? I mean, I am sure he would be a decent assistant coach and all, but do people want him just because he is associated with LSU?
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:47 am to otowntiger
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I would like to know the same thing. I looked up his resume and didn't find it all that impressive
He'd be a fricking assistant. Probably not even the lead. Jeez. He isn't the HC. He could 100% help our guard play and recruiting in south La.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:48 am to Elleshoe
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He'd be a fricking assistant. Probably not even the lead. Jeez. He isn't the HC. He could 100% help our guard play and recruiting in south La.
I think people are just being obtuse at this point.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:51 am to Joe Joe Joe
maybe we can hire Floyd, Eustachy, and Theus as Jones' assistants.
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