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re: Q&A with LSU head baseball coach Paul Mainieri, Part 2 Position battles and pitching

Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:37 am to
Posted by TigerLaw40
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:37 am to
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The football player playing baseball is always the fan favorite on this board. I think we are all pulling for him to break into the lineup, but some people need to pump the brakes.

This may generally be true; but in the case of Hampton, it is not simply because of the football connection. Hampton was a projected first round draft choice last summer and only didn't go to MLB because teams wouldn't meet the extraordinarily high number he and his family put out there. So a lot of the talk is also based on (and rightfully so) his potential as an actual baseball player and being one of our top of class recruits.

I agree with you that he is a freshman and fans need to be patient. Had it not been for him playing football, there is a very good chance he would be the starting CF come tomorrow. But it sounds like Mainieri is still high on him and will definitely provide him with his opportunities to develop and earn more and more playing time. In just the few scrimmages over the last 3 weeks, you could see a noticeable improvement and steady incline in his at-bats; so that is definitely a positive sign for believing he will get there at some point.
Posted by ColeLSU
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:30 am to
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This may generally be true; but in the case of Hampton, it is not simply because of the football connection. Hampton was a projected first round draft choice last summer


Exactly, this isnt everyone wanting Jordan Toles to start on the basketball team next year.

This guy was a consensus 1st round pick..... and the typical fan isnt going to understand why guys like Gio and Toups are playing over him, no offense to them... but people associate Hampton with top tier baseball guy and are gonna want to see him.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:38 am to
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I don't expect Gio to walk much. He rarely did last yea


He was 2nd on the team in BB% rate only to Chris Reid
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:39 am to
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This guy was a consensus 1st round pick..... and the typical fan isnt going to understand why guys like Gio and Toups are playing over him, no offense to them... but people associate Hampton with top tier baseball guy and are gonna want to see him.


That's because the typical fan is dumb.

Hampton's raw talent and athleticism are what had him projected in the top 2 rounds (he wasn't actually a consensus 1st rounder). Being a 2 sport athlete made him more attractive in the long term due to his athleticism. But when you're trying to win games now, polish plays.
Posted by ColeLSU
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:43 am to
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But when you're trying to win games now, polish plays.



Yea, Im not arguing with you

Just stating we are going to constantly see posts wondering where Hampton is bc everyone knows he was a high round draft choice that came here, and thats it. Wasnt advocating for him to start, 1 for 24 isnt gonna cut it even if he can steal every base.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:47 am to
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Yea, Im not arguing with you


Oh yeah, I know.

They're still going to get him early opportunities as well. In the long run, we will be better with him on the field. But he's not going to start full time until he's proven that he's ready to start full time.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:52 am to
Him and toups as pinch runners is something im excited about. We havent had those bench speed demons in a couple years. Really nice to have in a tie game or down by 1
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:53 am to
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They're still going to get him early opportunities as well. In the long run, we will be better with him on the field. But he's not going to start full time until he's proven that he's ready to start full time.

Project, what impact do you see spring football having on Hampton's baseball development, if any? I know that may be hard to estimate without knowing how much time away from baseball he will be and without knowing what he looks like in a few weeks prior to football starting up. Just thought you may be able to give it a shot.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:56 am to
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I've run out of sarcasm on this particular point.

You had me worried there for a moment.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:56 am to
I read an article shortly after the NCG, around the time of Mainieri's opening press conference, that talked about how Busch won't make the DB meetings mandatory for Hampton because he's so advanced. He will still attend spring practices, from what I understand. But things may change with a new DC and new defense. I don't have a great answer for this.
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:14 pm to
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But things may change with a new DC and new defense.

This was my thought in another thread yesterday. I knew comments had been made about his level of participation and someone responded with a link to an Advocate article from a few days ago about it.

If anything, my hope is that they more involve him in meetings so as to get the install of the new defense and understand his position; but not involve him in actual practices as much. But I don't really know what time of day they have their position meetings in the spring; so my opinion on that could possibly change based on learning that piece of information.
Posted by TDTiger225
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 6:41 pm to
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what impact do you see spring football having on Hampton's baseball development, if any? I know that may be hard to estimate without knowing how much time away from baseball he will be and without knowing what he looks like in a few weeks prior to football starting up.
I don't think people account enough for how sport specific athletic adaptation occurs over the course of the season. Fast twitch vs slow twitch, muscle mass, bone adaptation, power/explosion of certain sport specific events, strength of certain combinations of tendons and ligaments. I've seen it first hand when an athlete needs to change from one sport to another, it's a huge transformation and contrary to conventional wisdom of cross training, dabbling back and forth between two high level sports can hinder performance in both. The goal is usually to switch completely and hope to peak by the time it really counts. That's why successful multi sport athletes are so uncommon at the D1 level.

Granted, the transition from football to baseball is not as big as from something like cross country to wrestling, but still it's a bigger factor than a lot of people think. And that's beyond the reps, technique, and mental aspects which are also very important.

Sure, Mo is apparently that special type of an athlete, but normal expectation would be for him to start slow and steadily improve throughout the season. Same once he jumps back to football.
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2788 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:09 pm to
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Sure, Mo is apparently that special type of an athlete, but normal expectation would be for him to start slow and steadily improve throughout the season. Same once he jumps back to football.


I agree with you. Which is why I'm hoping that he isn't required to do too much physically during football spring practice, as I don't want it to hinder his baseball development and cause him to lose the momentum in baseball that he hopefully gains over the next few weeks.

Former football players and talking heads have often said that for returning players, spring practice is more important just from a mental rep standpoint and the physical part doesn't have much net positive effect when preparing for the season. In fact it can potentially have a net negative if there is an injury created by it.

So I guess we'll just have to wait and see what all Hampton will have to do with football.
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