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re: predicting LSU's men basketball depth chart

Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:20 pm to
Even if you look at time on the tour down under, you have to know they are giving Malone more minutes than they would in BR because he's a local...
Posted by NFLSU
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:22 pm to
8 downvotes for supporting Keeeeeeiiiiith in regards to OPs starting 5..it's Friday people.
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:33 pm to
4 of the starting 5 are pretty much locked in (TQ, Hornsby, Blakeney, Simmons). TQ is the lynchpin because he can run the point on offense and guard the 3 on defense (if necessary). Until Victor gets back, the 5 will be a game by game decision between Epps and Malone based on the matchup.

Sampson, Patterson and Gray will all get significant minutes off the bench. Sampson and Patterson can both knock down threes (I predict LSU leads the conf. in 3pt attempts this year) and like him or not, Gray still has a skillset that is very valuable. There isn't a guard in the SEC that can stay in front of him. He flourished in the uptempo games last season. With no great offensive post presence (Simmons will score inside, but he's not a back to the basket guy like Mickey or JOBIII) Gray may become even more valuable to this team.

One thing is for certain, if LSU can defend and rebound well enough the ball will be flying up the court on the offensive end.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:39 pm to
I was just looking over the roster. I had no idea Sampson was 6'5. Man we going to have some serious size at guard. Did Bridgewater make the trip or did he stay back with Gray? If Epps can continue to get better he gives us some nice size as well when we get Victor back we should really be in pretty good shape.

We just need one of our bigs to really step up for us
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:49 pm to
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Epps has fully passed up Malone at this point, there's no reason to play Malone unless we are just struggling that badly against a big big guy.


Yep agree totally, but as a coach and rightfully so you bring Epps off the bench. Everyone the whole forst half of the year will get caught up in Malone "starts" but he Epps will play way more total minutes. Who finishes, not who starts. CJJ is making the right call starting Malone and leaving the bench in very good shape.

I think South or anybody that follows like you can agree. When Victor is eligible he is starting regardless, so you start Malone knowing this and it keeps Aaron in the same mindset from the start to the finish. Contrary to popular belief it would be a much better transition for the team to go
Hornsby/Simmons/Malone
then
Hornsby/ Simmons/ Victor
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:59 pm to
I'm so sick of seeing ignorant people put Hornsby on the bench.

Also blakenky will play 3 before Hornsby does imo
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:02 pm to
I don't think it's a big deal for Epps to start the beginning of the year or not. I'd rather Epps tipping off. I don't quite understand the start Malone but only play him 2 minutes thing, but that's just me.
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

Also blakenky will play 3 before Hornsby does imo



Yep Hornsby is not coming off the bench, but what is a 3?
Posted by LSU1SLU
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:08 pm to
Sometimes you refer to players positions as 1 being pg 2 being sg 3 sf and so on. Just different basketball term for positions
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:11 pm to
Generic positions are basically by number

1 PG
2 SG
3 SF
4 PF
5 C

We will likely be playing with 2 SG's but you don't have two 2's. Basically at that point you'd use whichever one was guarding the opponents 3 (SF or extra SG) and call them the three.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 4:13 pm
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Sometimes you refer to players positions as 1 being pg 2 being sg 3 sf and so on. Just different basketball term for positions


Yeah I know im just messing around. No college basketball coach ever uses the number system, besides lane assigments, its really shocking how long its taken a lot people to catch on that the NBA for about the past 6-8 years does not use positions either.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:17 pm to
get your sarcasm out of here bruh.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:28 pm to
Brothers, i believe Darcy will start. Epps is probably my favorite guy on the team.

Hornsby will also start brothers
Posted by oauron
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:31 pm to
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Also blakenky will play 3 before Hornsby does imo


Not a chance. Hornsby is actually a strong enough to guard someone bigger than him. He had the task of guarding Anthony-Towns a few times last year.

Blakeney and Sampson both will have some weight and strength to gain to push Hornsby out of that role.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 4:32 pm
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:39 pm to
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He had the task of guarding Anthony-Towns a few times last year.


What?

He may have ended up guarding him after some switches, but I can't imagine we drew it up where Hornsby was guarding Anthony-Towns.

I think our success early will depend on solid minutes from Robinson. We will not be physical enough with either Malone or Epps down low. We would be doing Epps a disfavor putting him at the 5.
Posted by tigerbait2010
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Yeah I know im just messing around. No college basketball coach ever uses the number system, besides lane assigments, its really shocking how long its taken a lot people to catch on that the NBA for about the past 6-8 years does not use positions either.




Coast, this is a brotherhood. There is no need for such negative, negatiger posting in our congregation.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:47 pm to
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Coast, this is a brotherhood. There is no need for such negative, negatiger posting in our congregation.


This brother gets it, brother.
Posted by tigerbait2010
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:50 pm to




Brother SOS, what are your expectations for Victor? How he looked in practice last spring was really low key
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:51 pm to
Yeah I just understand your point, and think it helps with matchups very early on because most teams are not fortunate enough to have one guy let alone 3 that are matchup nightmares. So bringing Epps in it will put coaches in a bind. Whats funny as others have said because the game has developed so much we look at Epps and Simmons skill set and naturally view them as smaller, but in reality very few teams will trot 2 guys that are bigger than Epps and Simmons and not realize how fricked they are. One is 6'9 and one is 6''10 they are not small by any means.
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:53 pm to
quote:


What?

He may have ended up guarding him after some switches, but I can't imagine we drew it up where Hornsby was guarding Anthony-Towns.

I think our success early will depend on solid minutes from Robinson. We will not be physical enough with either Malone or Epps down low. We would be doing Epps a disfavor putting him at the 5.


You are wrong on all counts. When UK was able to trot out KAT, WCS and Johnson we he had to. Also Robinson will not contribute much this year, and our relative success early in the season will be on the usual for most teams with fresh faces and such large turnover in the major roles, cohesion and playing together, which I dont think will be a problem btw.

How much bigger do you think most teams are than Epps, Simmons, and Malone? Yeah we all have seen Darcy play, but he is still a 7 footer that has gotten a lot better and is not trying to do as much. Make fun of the guy, but he hustles and limits he fouling he will be a 5+ rebounder on the team.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 4:59 pm
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