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re: Players opting out shows the difference of character between our generations.

Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:48 am to
Posted by irishTiger18
Chicago
Member since Oct 2019
687 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:48 am to
Yeah but you as a fan and a booster who pays millions are different beasts
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:52 am to
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Are they really going risk that so you can feel good about your team playing in a meaningless bowl?
Hell. Why play a meaningless game against McNeese or Southeastern? Or against aTm? Not going to the playoffs right? “Oh well it’s to get bowl eligible”. For a “meaningless” bowl game?
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6848 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:00 pm to
Commitment
Pride
Responsibility

Not in the mind of todays Athletes

Good thing our young men and women in the Military have a different attitude

“The only easy day was yesterday”
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34213 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:16 pm to
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Who labeled the Rose Bowl a manufactured game? Who labeled the Peach Bowl (a NY6 Bowl) a manufacturered game?

If you are fine with players quitting for any bowl game, you should be fine with them quitting before a playoff game. I mean, they got to feed their families, right?





Don't use absolutes to prove your point. You know as well as I do that most of the bowls are manufactured and aren't worth a damn. If you're on a championship run then that is completely different. You can make more relevant bowls by incorporating them into a playoff system like DII
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18187 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:26 pm to
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Yeah but you as a fan and a booster who pays millions are different beasts
so you're actually saying players have an obligation to play for the big dollar boosters, but not for the average fan.

Interesting.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2741 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:37 pm to
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SammyTiger


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2. Students transfer colleges all the time. It’s dumb to pretend academics are why a student shouldn’t transfer


College credits do not necessarily transfer from school to school especially state to state. A player could lose many credits during a transfer.

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Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2501 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:09 pm to
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These players have been straight-up exploited for years by the ptb. TV, schools, coaches, NCAA have made millions on the backs of these "student-athletes" giving them next to nothing in return. Most returned to poverty whence they came. Now a very few will make a few dollars from NIL, but it is still disgraceful how they are treated financially because the ptb can get away with it.

Athletic revenue should be a profit-sharing undertaking with the kids who are generating the money. All of them.


Well ,using your knowledge , why don't these poor , being ripped off young kids just frick all the universities and either start their own college , or go and get all that good training at the facilities at Grambling and make all these rich WHITE people who donate millions to these univeristies keep their money , and leave it to relatives instead of funding $1,000,000 NIL's .How does that sound ?
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17891 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:19 pm to
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The 33% downvotes shows the generational differences


Old =\= wise. This board proves it daily.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33726 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:23 pm to
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Players opting out shows the difference of character between our generations.
OK, boomer - although, ironically, you are actually sort of right. The older generations expected college kids with not-yet-fully formed brains to batter themselves endlessly for your amusement.

Wanna know what's actually changed? We have a lot more data now.

It's weird to me that some of you seem to have a standard of blind allegiance with zero self-interest for student-athletes. That is ridiculous. And that actually probably led to a lot of the squandered fortunes of pro athletes over the years that you same boomers seem to love to gleefully make fun of. There is WAY less of that now, as the student athletes have become much more mindful of their health and their long-term finances.
Posted by Liger43
Hammond
Member since Sep 2019
508 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:25 pm to
The same players opting out are the ones that blow generational money and end up broke.
Posted by Antioch
Anytown, USA
Member since Nov 2021
1449 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:47 pm to
It dey culture dawg
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26452 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:57 pm to
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Pussification of America

You see it in the fanbase of college football programs like LSU that were once great, but have become an average, ordinary, typical shell of their glorious pasts. The players aren't pussies, it's the fans who leave early in the third when their team trails by two scores.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:05 pm to
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it's the fans who leave early in the third when their team trails by two scores.

Posted by MalletandScythe
Malibu, CA
Member since Mar 2021
66 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:09 pm to
Bullshirt. Football players and coaches have been among the most entitled group of people in America for decades. because they're generally slower when it comes to realizations, they've finally figured out they were being exploited and have finally started to do something about it.
Posted by Spankem
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
1078 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:11 pm to
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more mindful of their health and their long-term finances.


You had me until you said "long term." I would agree with short term immediate pay, but far too many leave the NFL having made millions only to end up with nothing to show for it by middle age.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
5396 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:14 pm to
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I abhor the term "progressive" because it's a false narrative. All conservatives should refrain.

I call it non-progressive or regressive...




I can dig it - like switching ‘radical’ to ‘loser’

Still thought we could have done ‘small dick losers’ or even have thrown a homophobic term in there, but hey.
Posted by ATLTiger24
Member since May 2007
415 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:17 pm to
Elite programs deal with this new reality by (i) playing in post-season games that matter, like playoff games, where players don't opt out; or (ii) persuade players that it's in their interest to stay for non-playoff games.

The new reality will not change unless the NFL openly downgrades players who forgo seasons or games absent actual injury. We all know that any NFL coach or execute who openly does so won't last long.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5107 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:23 pm to
A lot of these players who "opt out" or quit, then enter the draft, aren't going to make life-changing money. Some won't even make a roster.

Maybe some will return and get a degree, then become a coach because they don't know how to do anything else.

The good news? They'll also be teaching classes. These "educators" will be teaching your kids.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33726 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:38 pm to
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The same players opting out are the ones that blow generational money and end up broke.
There's close to zero % chance this happens with, say, Chase.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33726 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:40 pm to
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A lot of these players who "opt out" or quit, then enter the draft, aren't going to make life-changing money. Some won't even make a roster.
There's an argument that it's even more important for players in this category - they have one slim chance to maxmimize their value, so they really can't afford to lose it at all.
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