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Play calling was not the reason we lost to Wisconsin
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:02 pm
Everyone is complaining about the play calling when the two main reasons we lost were the offensive line and Harris. It doesn't matter how many passing plays we call...if the o-line doesn't block and Harris can't hit the mark, you get the outcome we saw Saturday. We saw a couple of times that when the o-line did do their job, Fournette got some pretty decent yardage. Unfortunately they spent most of their time missing assignments allowing Fournette to get hit in the backfield or Harris being rushed. If you are going to complain about Miles it should be the fact that he can't put a decent o-line on the field or develop a QB.
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:02 pm to foghat
Les you should be at practice not posting on tRant
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:03 pm to foghat
downvote just for dumb subject line
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:04 pm to foghat
And is it not the Coach's responsibility to get the O-line fired up and ready to play?
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:05 pm to foghat
We passed almost as many times as we ran. It's not the number of passes that is in question. It's the type of passing plays and formations. So yes it is the play calling in that respect.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:06 pm to foghat
I agree. It wasn't the play calling... IT WAS MILES' PREHISTORIC OFFENSIVE SYSTEM!
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:06 pm to foghat
GTFO
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:07 pm to emanresu
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It's the type of passing plays and formations. So yes it is the play calling in that respect.
What passing plays would you have called that would work when the o-line isn't blocking and Harris is throwing passes too high?
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:07 pm to TDcline
quote:Did you even read the OP? I sure hope you didn't.
And is it not the Coach's responsibility to get the O-line fired up and ready to play?
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:08 pm to foghat
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If you are going to complain about Miles it should be the fact that he can't put a decent o-line on the field or develop a QB.
That's what we've been doing. OLine doesn't know how to block?
Coaching
QB doesn't know when to tuck and run late in the game down 2?
Coaching
It all goes back to how they're being coached.
Which is why we can change an entire roster and see the same sh*t happening over and over.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:09 pm to AlxTgr
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Did you even read the OP? I sure hope you didn't.
Your subject line told me all I needed to know.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:09 pm to foghat
You couldnt be more wrong. A decent play caller can call plays that help the QB get rid of the ball faster. Our playbook has been dumbed down for years due to QB play. They cannot effectively run a play action. The pass play all require brandon to hold onto the ball and wait for the play to develop.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:10 pm to foghat
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What passing plays would you have called that would work when the o-line isn't blocking and Harris is throwing passes too high?
The plays that generate confusion, misdirection, and cause a defense to react to something they haven't seen before in every scouting video of our offense over the past 3 years.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:11 pm to foghat
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quote] If you are going to complain about Miles it should be the fact that he can't put a decent o-line on the field or develop a QB.
Pretty sure that's why most fans are hot. That and the fact that we had 9 months to completely overhaul the offense and we didn't. We have arguably the most experienced and talented offensive roster in the nation and we scored 7 points off of a TO the defense gave us. That's the issue and it still falls on the offensive scheme and development of great talent. When the sky is raining fire on our program like it is everything will get griped about. Deservingly so!
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:12 pm to emanresu
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We passed almost as many times as we ran. It's not the number of passes that is in question. It's the type of passing plays and formations. So yes it is the play calling in that respect.
There is a good post on page 12 that dissects the pre-snap look on the pass plays and the variety. It was actually pretty solid all things considered. We threw on 1st down fairly often and out of the shotgun too.
The biggest critique in the passing game is the left side roll outs, the unnecessary PA looks, and the 1 and 2 route combinations, but it was better against Wisconsin than it has been in some time IMO.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:14 pm to slackster
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the unnecessary PA looks
I don't really see the issue with this, unless it becomes apparent that the PA messes up Harris in some way. When you have LF in the backfield, there is always a chance we'll give it to him. Even if that PA makes the defense hesitate for a split second, it's something.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:16 pm to foghat
If your line is getting beaten, you make play calling adjustments that minimize that weakness and play to your strengths, like short routes and other fast-developing plays.
If your QB is struggling, you make play calling adjustments and slow the game down for him with easy throws and reads.
If the O-line can't hold up, you CANNOT continue trying to force a ground-and-pound offense.
If your QB is struggling, you make play calling adjustments and slow the game down for him with easy throws and reads.
If the O-line can't hold up, you CANNOT continue trying to force a ground-and-pound offense.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:18 pm to foghat
Yes, and the defense was amazing too. Ignore the fact that part of the reason that Wisconsin offense was held to such few yards was their methodical drives and slowly moving the ball down the field and LSU getting fortunate on QB mistakes not great plays by the defense.
In the end, the offense was bad and it occurred from both a play calling and execution standpoint. That goes to coaching.
When the team fails to execute for 5 out of the last 7 years, it's coaching. When it occurs across multiple OC's, OL coaches, WR coaches, etc, then it falls back onto the HC.
In the end, the offense was bad and it occurred from both a play calling and execution standpoint. That goes to coaching.
When the team fails to execute for 5 out of the last 7 years, it's coaching. When it occurs across multiple OC's, OL coaches, WR coaches, etc, then it falls back onto the HC.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:18 pm to foghat
hey look another execution excuse.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:19 pm to J Murdah
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They cannot effectively run a play action.
It is hard to run an effective play action when the defense is in the backfield before Harris even takes a step back.
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