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One Poster and One Issue at a Time: LSU Targets TEs
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:30 am
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:30 am
Some posters refuse to stick to one issue. When you correct them on one issue, they crawfish or slime over to another issue. When you correct them on that issue, some moron will jump back to the first issue.
So let me start with one poster and one issue.
monsterballads: I know that monsterballads wants to defend Harris at all costs. He blames the coaches. He blames the defense. He blames the play calling.
After the first five games, all he could talk about was QB performance. He doesn't do that much right now. With a 3 for 14 performance, I understand why.
monsterballads, why so much blame for everyone but the QB? Harris says the coaching staff set him up to succeed but that he was "awful" and "terrible." Mature words. Why do you think Harris is lying? Why can't you take Harris at his word? When you look at his 3 for 14 performance, with fumbling the snap, and running the wrong play, how do you not blame Harris and instead blame the coaches, the defense, and the play calling. Harris may one day be the best QB in the universe. That day is not here yet.
monsterballads used to be an okay poster. Right now, he's pretty much unreadable.
monsterballads' issue. He posts:
Against Miss State: Gordon got 1 target. Dickson got 1 target. No completions.
Against Auburn: Dickson got 1 target. Jeter got 1 target. One completion.
So in the P5 games, LSU throws the ball to the TEs. monsterballads your "2 passes thrown to the TE's. 2" is bullshite, but I expect you already knew that.
Which brings me to this post (not mine):
The coaching staff is calling passes to the TEs. They are not getting executed.
So let me start with one poster and one issue.
monsterballads: I know that monsterballads wants to defend Harris at all costs. He blames the coaches. He blames the defense. He blames the play calling.
After the first five games, all he could talk about was QB performance. He doesn't do that much right now. With a 3 for 14 performance, I understand why.
monsterballads, why so much blame for everyone but the QB? Harris says the coaching staff set him up to succeed but that he was "awful" and "terrible." Mature words. Why do you think Harris is lying? Why can't you take Harris at his word? When you look at his 3 for 14 performance, with fumbling the snap, and running the wrong play, how do you not blame Harris and instead blame the coaches, the defense, and the play calling. Harris may one day be the best QB in the universe. That day is not here yet.
monsterballads used to be an okay poster. Right now, he's pretty much unreadable.
monsterballads' issue. He posts:
quote:Against Wisconsin: Dickson got 2 targets, and Smith got 1 target. One completion, and it resulted in a fumble.
2 passes throw to the TE's.
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Against Miss State: Gordon got 1 target. Dickson got 1 target. No completions.
Against Auburn: Dickson got 1 target. Jeter got 1 target. One completion.
So in the P5 games, LSU throws the ball to the TEs. monsterballads your "2 passes thrown to the TE's. 2" is bullshite, but I expect you already knew that.
Which brings me to this post (not mine):
quote:How many times has the coaching staff called a play to the TE and the TE has been open, but Harris (or Jennings) did not throw to the TE?
When Harris threw the TD to Jones during the NMSU game, the TE was wide open, which should have been the first read.
The coaching staff is calling passes to the TEs. They are not getting executed.
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:43 am to Salviati
quote:
How many times has the coaching staff called a play to the TE and the TE has been open, but Harris (or Jennings) did not throw to the TE?
I don't have screen shots of the TEs, but there were a couple of plays that have been broken down in the Film Room that somewhat make your point.
Here you can see BH leaving the pocket too soon. He had protection and he had an open receiver, but he pulled it down and ran instead.
Again, BH has good protection and the receiver is going to be open on the left side. But he leaves the pocket too soon and forces the ball to his primary receiver, almost throwing a pick.
He is not making his reads and that is one factor in no TE productivity. TEs are often the 2nd or 3rd progression option in this offense.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:46 am to jrodLSUke
quote:
jrodLSUke
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:48 am to jrodLSUke
Nice work.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:49 am to Salviati
quote:YOU TOO.
Salviati
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:53 am to Salviati
So critical that a QB is comfortable in the pocket and can make reads. See Mett last year. As of right now Jennings and Harris don't have that. Many plays all he had to do with move to the right or left or just step up and the play was there.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:54 am to Salviati
oh my bad big dog, SEVEN total passes, not 2. whoops! sure showed me 
harris had a bad game. but he put points up on the board. what is the alternative? jennings? how many points did he help put up against auburn?
it was literally he first start EVER. on the road against #5 auburn. he played like a rattled freshman.
guess what? jennings didn't put up a single point on auburn. so what is your argument?
quote:
I know that monsterballads wants to defend Harris at all costs.
harris had a bad game. but he put points up on the board. what is the alternative? jennings? how many points did he help put up against auburn?
it was literally he first start EVER. on the road against #5 auburn. he played like a rattled freshman.
guess what? jennings didn't put up a single point on auburn. so what is your argument?
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 10:58 am
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:02 am to monsterballads
quote::smh:
oh my bad big dog, SEVEN total passes, not 2. whoops! sure showed me
quote:This post isn't about Harris v. Jennings.
harris had a bad game. but he put points up on the board. what is the alternative? jennings? how many points did he help put up against auburn?
it was literally he first start EVER. on the road against #5 auburn. he played like a rattled freshman.
guess what? jennings didn't put up a single point on auburn. so what is your argument?
However, your delection is classic.
quote:
Some posters refuse to stick to one issue. When you correct them on one issue, they crawfish or slime over to another issue.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:05 am to Salviati
I think the OP needs to clarify "targeted" as most of us take it, i.e., when the QB is in scrambling mode and throws impromptu toward the TE, I wouldn't count that as targeting the TE. That's what happened with Dickson vs State and Auburn. Others?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:05 am to Salviati
no you're putting words in my mouth to try to make your argument.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:05 am to AlwysATgr
quote:
I think the OP needs to clarify "targeted" as most of us take it, i.e., when the QB is in scrambling mode and throws impromptu toward the TE, I wouldn't count that as targeting the TE. That's what happened with Dickson vs State and Auburn. Others?
exactly. but lying is apparently what he wants to do.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:07 am to jrodLSUke
quote:
He is not making his reads and that is one factor in no TE productivity. TEs are often the 2nd or 3rd progression option in this offense.
i agree. harris was a big disappointment saturday. he said it himself: "is this a nightmare?"
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:10 am to Salviati
Maybe he meant two completed passes?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:11 am to Dieter Von Cunth
that's what i meant, but this guy has some sort of hard on for me
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:13 am to monsterballads
well, Dickson has 3 catches, so you're still a big fat LIAR 
but seriously, I took it as meaning 2 targets as well. no big deal. geaux Tigers and all that.
but seriously, I took it as meaning 2 targets as well. no big deal. geaux Tigers and all that.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:17 am to Salviati
My question is why arent we executing simple plays like hitches or post/slant level routes? Or heck even 5 yd slant when the defender is playing off? Lets get these QBs in a rhythm with some easy passes.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:18 am to Salviati
I don't think threads calling out specific posters are allowed.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:19 am to tke857
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Lets get these QBs in a rhythm with some easy passes.
cameron gave him some easy passes and he choked. he's young. you have to give him more chances to succeed though.
we've already seen what jennings is capable of. he's ok, but he's limited.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:19 am to Nissanmaxima
I'm not sure why Desean Smith is still here.
My guess is he will be the first to jump ship after this year. Sad thing is they actually used him in the spring game and he was productive. Feist was also a tackling machine that has yet to see the field. Teuhema and Maclin are both better than Rasco.
My guess is he will be the first to jump ship after this year. Sad thing is they actually used him in the spring game and he was productive. Feist was also a tackling machine that has yet to see the field. Teuhema and Maclin are both better than Rasco.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:20 am to nicholastiger
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Feist was also a tackling machine that has yet to see the field.
he was a monster during the spring game... has he even played a single snap?
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