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Odd SECCG quote from the LSU page re the Florida rescheduling.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 10/13/16 at 4:54 pm
"The SEC Commissioner’s Regulations requires each football team play all eight Conference games in a season in order to be eligible to compete for a divisional title and play in the SEC Championship Game. Had the game not been rescheduled, Florida and LSU would have been ineligible to compete for the SEC title this season."
Whaaaaa?
I thought the whole argument driving a reschedule was that Florida would have an advantage in getting to the SECCG if we didn't and Tennessee lost to Bama Saturday. If this was the rule all along, why in the world didn't anyone point this out before now?
I can understand Sankey wanting more control, and if that more control would have let him intervene last Wednesday and move the game to Monday (like Slive did to us in 2005), I'm all for it. However, the article makes it sound like this was the rule all along.
Doesn't anyone know what is going on in Birmingham?
HMMMMM.
GEAUX TIGERS
Whaaaaa?
I thought the whole argument driving a reschedule was that Florida would have an advantage in getting to the SECCG if we didn't and Tennessee lost to Bama Saturday. If this was the rule all along, why in the world didn't anyone point this out before now?
I can understand Sankey wanting more control, and if that more control would have let him intervene last Wednesday and move the game to Monday (like Slive did to us in 2005), I'm all for it. However, the article makes it sound like this was the rule all along.
Doesn't anyone know what is going on in Birmingham?
HMMMMM.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 10/13/16 at 4:55 pm to Thorny
Hence the reason Florida all of a sudden made a huge push to reshcedule
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:01 pm to TigerDat
True, but it doesn't match any of the conversations about the situation that we have heard. The media was conceding Florida's advantage in their race against Tennessee. They just thought we were sore losers for pointing it out.
Under this rule, Florida had no advantage to not play the game. In fact, they were at a significant disadvantage.
Nobody was saying that applying this rule essentially gave Tennessee the East.
GEAUX TIGERS
Under this rule, Florida had no advantage to not play the game. In fact, they were at a significant disadvantage.
Nobody was saying that applying this rule essentially gave Tennessee the East.
GEAUX TIGERS
This post was edited on 10/13/16 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:03 pm to Thorny
quote:
The SEC Commissioner’s Regulations requires each football team play all eight Conference games in a season in order to be eligible to compete for a divisional title and play in the SEC Championship Game.
This has been mentioned repeatedly on this site.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:04 pm to TigerDat
quote:
thought the whole argument driving a reschedule was that Florida would have an advantage in getting to the SECCG if we didn't and Tennessee lost to Bama Saturday
They found out they were wrong and caved. It's the only explanation for this game being played.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:10 pm to Buga
I'd also say rules are rules until they aren't.
I would not be surprised if UF was hoping for a waiver of some kind. Perhaps the commissioner, knowing the charges being levied on why UF did nothing to have this game played, said no fricking way to that, pushing the sides to come together.
I would not be surprised if UF was hoping for a waiver of some kind. Perhaps the commissioner, knowing the charges being levied on why UF did nothing to have this game played, said no fricking way to that, pushing the sides to come together.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:11 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
quote:
The SEC Commissioner’s Regulations requires each football team play all eight Conference games in a season in order to be eligible to compete for a divisional title and play in the SEC Championship Game.
This has been mentioned repeatedly on this site.
Link it
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:12 pm to Buga
quote:I'm thinking you're right. Egg on their jorts. Nice parting gift, Foley!
They found out they were wrong and caved. It's the only explanation for this game being played.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:25 pm to Thorny
And, as I think of it, Sankey didn't even mention it in his phone call to Gary and Verne during the Tenn/aTm game.
GEAUX TIGERS
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:53 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
quote:The SEC Commissioner’s Regulations requires each football team play all eight Conference games in a season in order to be eligible to compete for a divisional title and play in the SEC Championship Game. This has been mentioned repeatedly on this site.
Link it
Posters have repeatedly linked to the SEC website rules for this matter.
Look it up yourself.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:56 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
It's your contention.
Can you back it up?
After all , it was " repeatedly".
Can you back it up?
After all , it was " repeatedly".
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:01 pm to Thorny
That provision was the only leverage the Commissioner had. Now, had the game not been played, and had Florida gone 6-1 to Tennessee's 6-2, I'm not sure that Florida would have been denied a spot in the championship game because you have to square that provision, which is a section that is clearly labeled as applying to scheduling, with the other provision that expressly states that the champion is determined by winning percentage (if 8 games is actually a hard requirement, then the winning percentage provision is meaningless). The truth is probably that both these provisions were holdovers from the time when the SEC didn't set the schedule for teams and only required that you play 5 conference games at a minimum.
I would expect that the conference will be adopting some new regulations to deal with situations where games have to be cancelled (and giving the commissioner more power on scheduling) and truly can't be made up.
I would expect that the conference will be adopting some new regulations to deal with situations where games have to be cancelled (and giving the commissioner more power on scheduling) and truly can't be made up.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:03 pm to nitwit
I waste way too much time on this website, and I never saw the 8-game rule mentioned.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:12 pm to nitwit
quote:
It's your contention.
Can you back it up?
After all , it was " repeatedly".
Prove me wrong.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:14 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
I haven't seen the 8 game rule mentioned or even discussed in media.
ETA: i would like to see the rule in the sec bylaws/regulations. I bet it doesn't exist
ETA: i would like to see the rule in the sec bylaws/regulations. I bet it doesn't exist
This post was edited on 10/13/16 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 10/14/16 at 9:03 am to ATL-TIGER-732
quote:
Posters have repeatedly linked to the SEC website rules for this matter.
Look it up yourself.
Yea, it never happened
Posted on 10/14/16 at 9:05 am to ATL-TIGER-732
quote:
It's your contention.
Can you back it up?
After all , it was " repeatedly".
Prove me wrong.
Prove a negative?
You made a contention. You said it happened repeatedly. Yet you can't provide anything
The rules said the SEC could cancel games actually
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 9:25 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 9:07 am to Thorny
I know. I head this on Mascona yesterday. I had the WTF look as well. Why in the frick didn't we know about this sooner. There a million threads on this board and calls to local radio shows with ideas for the division championships.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 9:12 am to ATL-TIGER-732
quote:
Posters have repeatedly linked to the SEC website rules for this matter.
Look it up yourself.
All the rules said is that all teams "shall play 8 games". And that division winners were teams with "highest winning percentage". And that the commissioner had the authority to cancel a game. Nowhere did anyone post that to "win the division you HAD to play 8 games". I never saw it, if so. Thus all the bitching about Florida having an advantage. Hell, even Tennessee was screaming that this game needed to get played.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 9:18 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
The wording on that wasn't exactly clear (said each team would play 8 conference games, not that it required 8 to be eligible for the CG), but Sankey probably informed them that he would enforce it that way. Once Alleva heard that, he then used that as leverage to keep our home game and our bye week because UF had no choice but to reschedule. That's probably why he announced his requirements in advance. Pretty strong move by Alleva in my opinion.
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