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re: Now We know what is in Coach O’s binder

Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by ThePaleHorse
Houston
Member since Jul 2011
807 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:44 pm to
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but let's not just forget the first part of his tenure


Of course lets not forget that.
The first part of his tenure is exactly why he is doing things right now. You are making our point!!!
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84486 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:46 pm to
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You are making our point!!!


So according to you making two bad hires before getting it right the third time was in the binder?

Or is there a different point that im missing?
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 1:16 pm to
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He hit the jackpot with Burrow and Brady. Without those gets, he's fired.


And if he didn't go get Brady or Burrow and another team did, those coaches would get credit. O not getting them would just be another knock against him.
Surely you can see the improvement in personnel and LSU's current ranking in recruiting. Is that part of hope and pray? Dude strikes me as smart and determined and hard working.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
50099 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 1:24 pm to
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People made fun of him for being organized


Is this a no so veiled shot at SFP? If so
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67549 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 1:29 pm to
I think Its equally ridiculous to pretend that was all according to plan as it is to pretend this was all luck.

O hired Canada and Ensminger.

He also fired Canada and hired someone to fix Ensminger’s offense.

He could have settled and didn’t and he kept doing everything he could to fix the offense.
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Let’s just stop fighting with eachother over how we got here.
Posted by Dchris73
Member since Nov 2019
35 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:00 pm to
Anybody who discredits a man for hiring an nfl whiz kid passing game co and convincing a kid born and raised in ohio to come on down to La and compete at LSU for a starting spot has got to be considered a gump and a prolific Debbie downer ,coach O with out question got kinda lucky in a sense and so did LSU that Jimbo Fisher and Tom Herman left em at the alter and I personally damn glad. As far as the hiring if the first OC you better believe that was a stipulation to which he new he had to bend , the administration wanted it the fans wanted it and so he set it to calm the masses and he hired what was believed to be one of the best OC in the damn country who just happened to have alot of 1 year stops.well it wasn't just a coincidence and I'm sure the jet sweep is a great play but you better believe side line to side line your not winning @ Alabama with that most years , and when Coach O took over 3 years ago the offense looked way better than it did when miles left ,the numbers don't lie . The problem was you were working with a limited QB ,I won't mention any names bc I like the kid but there not gonna Joey Burrow to go line up with the recieverd if you wanna make this team , Les miles couldn't recognize a true blue QB recruit if 2 or 3 of them fell out of the rafters in the indoor practice facility with shirts on that said QB! We had to sit and watch a team loaded w/ NFL starters do everything it could to hold Alabama down in 11' and we couldn't cross the 50 yrd line and never not even one time did Les miles think to himself I should out JL out there and you know really if he had issues with JL damn son you got JC ex Georgia gunslinger Z.Met sitting on you bench ! Are you serious ,you couldn't get that dude ready in a year , he came in at mid term,that game was the worse coaching job in the history of college/LSU athletics but if you didn't realize then that this thing was gonna go off the rails sooner or later you were just ignoring some very key indicators and seriously bad traits ,I loved Les miles ,he was great guy and a good football coach but the standard had been set before him , LSU you doesn't or should never accept adequate coaching , were freaking LSU we shouldn't be satisfied with good to adequate, we have been to the mountain top and good won't get you there , you have to have great coaching and I don't really understand some people's opinions on Coach O but from where we were with all that talent and had a head coach who could not bring himself to make changes whether you wanna talk about the quarterbacks the game management the offensive production the scheme, whatever CLM just refused to adapt or wasnt knowledgable enough to make those kinds of wholesale changes and be comfortable in his decision now we got a coach that will throw his manhood on the table and make changes to improve after evaluating the teams performance year to year ,guess what, 3 years and we are back in the natty race and sitting in the #1 position and probable Heisman trophy winner pulling the trigger and you can be a gump or negatiger all you want to but you might as well get ready bc we comin'baw and CEO will be the Head man for the forseable future and man it looks bright , let me go put my costa sunglasses .
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84486 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:01 pm to
OMG
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47593 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:02 pm to
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Obviously the binder contained the master plan to take LSU Football to unprecedented levels of success. Maybe now we can put this comparing him to a coach we just fired to bed. I Love the underdog!! Go TIGERS


Based on the way it flowed with perfect inflection, I can't help but to imagine RTWFY! was in the binder as well.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:05 pm to
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Without those gets, he's fired.



Oh, i see. Now he gets criticized for putting together the pieces for a title run.
Posted by JYD
Pineville
Member since Oct 2003
7754 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:06 pm to
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If CEO wins the title, I think we join maybe only Miami (FL) with three consecutive coaches winning a title.


And Miami won a natty with 4 out of 5 straight coaches.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47593 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:07 pm to
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Dchris73


No.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:27 pm to
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let's not just forget the first part of his tenure.


Yeah. Let’s not forget the first part of Saban’s tenure either or his loss to UAB. Let’s not remember how the team rallied to finish one Donte Jackson frick up from a 10 win season.
Let’s forget about our first NY6 game in 7 years.

No doubt O had some missteps early but he got them fixed.

O didn’t inherit a rebuild but the program had become stagnant and needed a renovation.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84486 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:29 pm to
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Yeah. Let’s not forget the first part of Saban’s tenure either or his loss to UAB. Let’s not remember how the team rallied to finish one Donte Jackson frick up from a 10 win season.
Let’s forget about our first NY6 game in 7 years.


It's like you didn't bother reading my post with any sort of context

quote:

No doubt O had some missteps early but he got them fixed.


Which I absolutely give him credit for. This thread is about what is in the binder though.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73634 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:43 pm to
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Let’s just stop fighting with eachother over how we got here.



I agree. I'm not going to fight with other LSU fans. I am, however, going to remember the ones who were terribly wrong about O and who trashed him relentlessly here. I might even point it out every once in a while, because they deserve it.

I'm not expecting the punks to admit that they were wrong, but they should be called out on occasion for flooding this board with their obnoxious drivel for months. Any regular on this board who has been around for a year or more knows who I am referring to.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6640 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:46 pm to
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f CEO wins the title, I think we join maybe only Miami (FL) with three consecutive coaches winning a title.



Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84486 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:46 pm to
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I agree. I'm not going to fight with other LSU fans. I am, however, going to remember the ones who were terribly wrong about O and who trashed him relentlessly here. I might even point it out every once in a while, because they deserve it.

I'm not expecting the punks to admit that they were wrong, but they should be called out on occasion for flooding this board with their obnoxious drivel for months. Any regular on this board who has been around for a year or more knows who I am referring to.


Most of these people you are referring to said O would never win anything if he didn't fundamentally change the offense. His hiring of Ensminger after firing Canada seemed to signal he wasn't interested in changing. You can act like that criticism wasn't valid as much as you want, but O himself did exactly what we wanted him to do. So how wrong were we?
Posted by Zeek
Nashville Tn
Member since May 2013
681 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:54 pm to
Maybe he hired Les Miles TE coach because he had experience. 1984-1986 OC/QB Mcneese St 1988-1990 OC/QB Louisiana Tech 1994-1996 Texas A&M OC/QB 1997-1998 Clemson OC/QB 2003 Auburn QB 2008 OC Auburn. I bet that when all those guys that had to eat crow Saturday.They called our fan base to learn how to cook it. Coach O, Clyde,Ensminger, the Troy loss.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 3:01 pm to
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I wonder if miles is rooting against us

Especially against bama




He didn't. Why should he? He isn't a petty little soyboi like you.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73634 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 3:32 pm to
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LNCHBOX



Oh. Here's one of the dip shits.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84486 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 3:33 pm to
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Oh. Here's one of the dip shits.



Yea, no shite you wouldn't have an actual response to what I posted.
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