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Not making excuses for poor play, but can we all agree the officiating was a disgrace?

Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:58 am
I mean this was the most poorly officiated game I have ever seen. You have the inexcusable phantom PI and the questionable hold take 14 off the board. Add to that TWO highly questionable targetting calls? Look I get the team is undisciplined and does a lot of dumb shite and the game is changing with targetting and whatnot, but last Saturday was a screw job there is no way around that. It's one thing to get ticky tack calls against you, but these were four HUGE, game-changing calls that were either close or just wrong.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:00 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:59 am to
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the questionable hold


It was a correct call.

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take 7 off the board


FIFY


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. Add to that TWO highly questionable targetting calls?


The first was maybe questionable. The second was legit boneheaded by our guy.


We gotour as kicked. Plain and simple.
Posted by Abe1961
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:59 am to
Yes
Posted by LSUGoose
Red Stick via St James Parish
Member since Jan 2006
5193 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:01 am to
The holding call didn't take 7 off the board because we scored a few plays later.

You have to remember, LSU created those ticky-tack situations for refs to consider grabbing the flag.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:02 am to
The first targeting was not questionable. He lowered his head and hit the QB in the head with the crown of his helmet. That is textbook targeting.

The Farrel targeting was not targeting. Call it a late hit, fine, but it wasn't targeting. He hit him inadvertently in the facemask with his facemask.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50323 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:04 am to
Two years ago LSU went to MSU and had multiple TDs called back, along with several other big gains. If memory serves, it was well over 200 yards of offense that night that the SEC took away.

However, we still won the game.

Fact is, if you aren't good enough to overcome this BS against MSU, you may as well pack it up now because you won't beat Bama, UF, and AU. If one or two bad calls cause the staff and team to lose focus that bad, we are done. This is the SEC. You HAVE to expect shennanigans if you are a Tier 2 team.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:04 am to
As someone mentioned before, the problem with having the reputation as a penalty-prone team is that the refs come into the game looking to penalize you. It's a positive feedback loop.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:05 am
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:05 am to
The targeting calls were legit.

Don't forget the pass interference call that wasn't called on LSU (with about 3 minutes left in 2nd quarter).




This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:16 am
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:07 am to
Most of the time the officiating is a disgrace. This time was no exception.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:10 am to
MSU is very strong this year. Not trying to take anything away from a dominant performance. I'm just saying the officials really did a very poor job. I'm sorry but at minimum the second targeting was completely uncalled for.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:16 am to
Just as there is no excuse for the anemic play by LSU in this game, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.... There is also no excuse for the horrific officiating as well. It was, regardless of how LSU played, pathetic.... That's in no means sour grapes. It's just the facts..... For such a powerhouse conference, we really do seem to endure some pretty sub par officiating on the reg.

Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:17 am to
Was there any product on the field, without a Bulldog, that was positive. Coaching, tackling, blocking, passing, catching on the LSU side was all substandard for winning games.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:19 am to
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the questionable hold take 14 off the board.


Our player was grasping the other players jersey and pulling it. It's the literal definition of holding.
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2405 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:20 am to
One play I noticed was an obvious block in the back on a long punt return for MSU that wasn't called. Happened right in front of the return man at midfield, but it is what it is. Still, LSU would have needed to play a lot better than it did for officiating to play a role in the outcome of the game. If officiating had gone the way LSU would have liked it, the final score might have been 30-14.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 11:00 am
Posted by coachc
Opelousas, La
Member since Aug 2011
1 post
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:22 am to
The calls by officials were not nearly as bad as the calls by LSU DC and OC There is abad stinch hovering over Baton Rouge.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22344 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:51 am to
Miss St won the game, and for all we know, might beat LSU 9 out of 10 times this year. That's settled and done.

I think the OP is attempting to discuss officiating. I personally took issue with the penalties called on our scoring plays. Both of those calls can only be made from an official using a microscope.

We are talking about a sport that unfortunately involves an amount of subjectiveness that easily affects its outcomes. Case in point. Clemson is the defending national champion based on an obvious pick play at the goal line with a receiver showing obvious intent.

The precedence set by that official in Starkville Sat night essentially forbids any crossing routes when defenders are in press coverage. Sullivan was as surprised by the contact as much as the defender was. Poor defensive alignment and coverage assignments led to LSU executing a perfectly timed big play.

My point is that if what happened on that play is consistently called it will eliminate press coverage and/or crossing routes altogether when two receivers are aligned on same side. This will NEVER happen. It was a terrible decision by the official.

And I also feel that if no discretion was given to Chark on his first holding penalty, which I honestly can't see at all from my DVR, there will never be any blocks successfully made by a receiver isolated on a DB. But, of course I know this call too will never be consistently made.

The cynic in me thinks that these calls were subconsciencly made due to Miss St being the perceived underdog, which we now know was not the actual case.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:52 am to
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The first was maybe questionable. The second was legit boneheaded by our guy.

You have those backwards.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:54 am to
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You have those backwards.



I don't.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23082 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:56 am to
Standard SEC officiating. Total incompetence.

The official who threw the flag on the phantom PI was 20 yards down the field reacting to the aftermath of the play and the openness of Chark. Exactly what you're not suppose to do as an official.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:01 am to
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I don'


So you think Donnie Alexander launching the crown of his helmet into the head of Williams was a questionable targeting call?
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