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re: No Full Band Trips During The Regular Season....Thanks Joe
Posted on 9/1/16 at 6:30 am to Irish LSU Fan
Posted on 9/1/16 at 6:30 am to Irish LSU Fan
No full band trip this year is really bad. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come with the band
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Posted on 9/1/16 at 6:38 am to Bad Medicine
I find it hard to believe they couldn't send the full band to Auburn. Full band for at least one SEC game a yr IMO
Posted on 9/1/16 at 10:54 am to Irish LSU Fan
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People want to know what has happened to the band.
I definitely care, but am wondering what you mean by something having happened to the band. Shouldn't we wait to see them in action before assuming something has happened for the worse?
The situation with travel, we all know, is ultimately up to Athletics. Their money, so they get the final call on who/what/where/when. Sending a larger contingent to Madison seems logical: first game, get the crowd pumped up more than the smaller pep band can do, etc. And if by the grace of God the team goes to Atlanta, everyone would lose their $hit if the band couldn't go due to having already taken an expensive full-band trip. At least this is what I think.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 10:59 am to Irish LSU Fan
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No Full Band Trips During The Regular Season....Thanks Joe
More tickets available to paying fans. Thanks, Joe.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 11:04 am to gar90
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your blind passion without being able to see the other side of it is just annoying and makes you look like a pitch fork toting dumbass who only sees and hears what he wants and puts your hands over your ears and goes LALALALALALALLALALALALA whenever there is something you don't like
This guy nailed Irish LSU fan.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 11:04 am to Irish LSU Fan
They are just getting ready for 2 playoff games...
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:49 pm to Pelican fan99
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hmmmm I wonder why donations aren't there. Could it be because nobody trusts the piece of shite SOM to use their money where they want it to go?
Maybe, but if true the donors are uninformed and need to educate themselves on how this works. The SOM does not get that money. The money comes from the band booster fund, which is funded by athletics and private donations. If you give money to the band booster fund through TAF, the SOM can't touch it, and they are fine with that. Talley actually encourages people to give to the band booster fund because he knows the band is a great ambassador for the school of music.
Here are the facts:
The Tiger Marching Band has a budget. Said budget is tight. Said budget includes a portion set aside for travel. It does not come from the school of music. The travel budget this year is the same as last years. (Be thankful it's not less as revenue/donations are down across the board). It costs the same to fly, house and feed 110 students for the Green Bay game as it would the whole band for Auburn, A&M, or Arky game.
They had to make a choice and chose Green Bay as it's a nationally televised marquis game. Better to have 110 there on TV than 0.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:52 pm to jbraua
Wasn't the whole situation with King based around the SOM trying to and ultimately getting their hands on Tiger Band's money?
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:56 pm to BayouBengals18
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Wasn't the whole situation with King based around the SOM trying to and ultimately getting their hands on Tiger Band's money?
That's what he has alleged in his lawsuit, but it's a bit different factually than the issue in this thread. Specifically, one allegation in his suit involved a single donor wanting to fund a scholarship solely for the benefit of the Golden Girls. She wasn't making a donation to the band booster fund through TAF. He alleges the school of music wanted to take that money to fund music scholarships across the board for marching and non-marching students. Different pot, different rules.
As an attorney, there are some allegations in his suit that are somewhat hard for me to swallow. If an individual or corporation wants to fund a scholarship for a specific type of candidate, there are many legal avenues available to do this. I don't pretend to know all of the facts in his case, but I remember when I read his Complaint thinking to myself that there seemed to be a lot of holes or missing information.
This post was edited on 9/1/16 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 9/1/16 at 1:12 pm to Irish LSU Fan
before the 2003 SEC championship during fanfest I was standing beside 2 Georgia fans and when the LSU band and LSU fans did the pregame one Georgia fan said to the other "We are going to lose"
The SEC championship game is the only game that the whole band needs to go to.
The SEC championship game is the only game that the whole band needs to go to.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 1:13 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Nobody gives a shite
Posted on 9/1/16 at 1:52 pm to austintexastiger
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99% of LSU fans care about the band
no.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:14 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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99% of LSU fans care about the band
Most of them care about Tiger Band to the extent they march down the hill, play pre game, and play Neck. Sad but true.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:44 pm to Bayou_Bengal@Irving
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I just hope it doesn't end up as it did during the Broadhead Administration. The band had to organize its own transportation to Oxford 1 yr in the 80s. They carpooled enough members but not the whole band.
Ah, yes, I was on the "Impromptu Road Trip". This actually happened during the first year of Joe Dean as AD (1987), and it was to Jackson. And, the whole band did make it, or at least enough to march halftime. Not everybody got there at the same time, so we had to march into the stadium in smaller groups. Apparently, it wasn't about money, but because Dean didn't know that the AD was responsible for transportation and his office screwed it up. I don't remember Broadhead screwing up our support.
That said, this year's announcement has nothing to do with Roy King. It's about a long planned process by Alleva to reduce the cost of transporting the band, which is separate from the funds in dispute in Roy's dismissal and lawsuit.
Alleva has been trying to do this for a while. This is associated with the recent attempts to prevent other bands from marching in Tiger Stadium. He actually tried to convince all the ADs to make that league policy several years ago. The other ADs didn't agree. Apparently, he had told Roy that the policy was going to happen several years ago, according to someone who heard about it from Roy. I guess he wanted the policy to be conference wide so that he wouldn't look like a petulant cheapskate. It didn't work.
I think sending the 110 member band to Green Bay is a good idea, but I would like to see the whole band at Auburn as well.
GEAUX TIGERS
LSU Tuba, 85-89
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:46 pm to tigerbandlover
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The situation with travel, we all know, is ultimately up to Athletics.
Not anymore....the school of music controls their (athletic) budget,
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Sending a larger contingent to Madison seems logical
Great idea......sounds much better than the tiny bands they had been flying to away games (50 members). The group they are flying to this game is about the same size they usually send by bus to away games (regular pep band size).
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And if by the grace of God the team goes to Atlanta, everyone would lose their $hit if the band couldn't go due to having already taken an expensive full-band trip.
Crap....The band has always had a full band trip PLUS all post season games (SEC championship + bowl).
Something HAS happened to the band.....it's smaller than it has been in the past 20+ years, fewer students are interested in the band, smaller percentage of returning members, reports of students quitting during band camp, etc.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:56 pm to jbraua
You are very uninformed.
There is no band booster fund. Never has been. There is ONLY a TAF band account.
Wrong.....Talley (and the school of music) can now do whatever he wants with that money (TAF).
You could not be more wrong....The total cost to send the whole band to Auburn/Miss State is around 100,000.00. The total cost to send the pep band to Green Bay is around 50,000.00.
So you are saying their choice was to either send a full band to Auburn OR no band to Green Bay?
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The money comes from the band booster fund
There is no band booster fund. Never has been. There is ONLY a TAF band account.
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If you give money to the band booster fund through TAF, the SOM can't touch it, and they are fine with that.
Wrong.....Talley (and the school of music) can now do whatever he wants with that money (TAF).
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It costs the same to fly, house and feed 110 students for the Green Bay game as it would the whole band for Auburn, A&M, or Arky game.
You could not be more wrong....The total cost to send the whole band to Auburn/Miss State is around 100,000.00. The total cost to send the pep band to Green Bay is around 50,000.00.
So you are saying their choice was to either send a full band to Auburn OR no band to Green Bay?
Posted on 9/1/16 at 5:08 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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You are very uninformed.
Nope. I have emails from reps in both TAF and SOM. I know because I have made donations to the band. I am, in fact, very informed.
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There is no band booster fund. Never has been. There is ONLY a TAF band account.
Talley himself refers to the TAF band account as a band-booster fund. Are we really going to split hairs over the name of the fund or definition of booster?
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Wrong.....Talley (and the school of music) can now do whatever he wants with that money (TAF).
No, they can't. Talk to your TAF rep and they will assure you donations made to the band fund are used solely by the marching band only. I have this in writing. Any unauthorized use of donor funds would not only constitute fraud, but would also jeopardize TAF's 501(c)(3) status.
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You could not be more wrong....The total cost to send the whole band to Auburn/Miss State is around 100,000.00. The total cost to send the pep band to Green Bay is around 50,000.00.
I have no idea where you got your numbers, but my source actually works in the School of Music. We are sending 110 to Green Bay. The cost to do this is roughly the same as busing the whole band (325+) 800 miles round trip in six charter buses for an overnight trip. This has also been confirmed by multiple other sources.
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So you are saying their choice was to either send a full band to Auburn OR no band to Green Bay?
Auburn was an example. The point Talley made was that it would cost the same to fly 110 to Green Bay or bus the full band to an SEC road game. They chose Green Bay as it's a marquis game on national television and they wanted the best presence possible.
They have money set aside for a full trip to Atlanta. The conference doesn't pay for that. Bowl games, on the other hand, are paid for by the bowl. The bowl actually pays for the transportation, lodging, and feeding of the bands.
I am the opposite of uninformed, but don't take my word for it. Talk to your TAF rep or email anyone in the music department. They will write you back and confirm what I've already said.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 6:12 pm to geauxtigers33
I think it has more to do with F. King and Todd Queen than it does with Alleva.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 6:14 pm to Irish LSU Fan
LSU fans dont need a band, theyd rather hear piped in rap music and "calling baton rouge"
Posted on 9/1/16 at 6:15 pm to SouthOfSouth
I'd be really surprised if the School of Music allowed the full band to go to any playoff games, unless they are within a bus ride's distance.
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