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Nice X and O breakdown of final play (INT) and what exactly went wrong

Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:37 pm
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1237 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:37 pm
This is what inadequate coaching will do...

Video is kinda long, but it just shows how God awful our O-line was on that last play. Basically, Malone and Clapp (more blame on Malone though) both failed to recognize the slot corner and outside linebacker moving in position for a blitz PRIOR to the snap (this is easily noticeable if you watch the video and SHOULD have been picked up by our guys, Pocic sees it and tries to tell the left side of the line something in advance). Malone (Left Tackle) picks out the blitzing slot corner to block (the wrong guy to block once the Dline shifted), instead he should have blocked the OLB after he moves to the INSIDE shoulder of Malone. What unfolds after is the OLB with a wide open blitz coming up the front (a QBs worse nightmare) and not giving Harris enough time to make the correct throw (which Harris DOES see). After the breakdown, the blame shifts to Harris not being able to improvise and already having his mind set on throwing to Chark (who by then) after he had to alter is route because the play took to long to unfold by that time.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 1:42 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22157 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:37 pm to
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Video is kinda long


Or nonexistent
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:38 pm to
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Or nonexistent
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1237 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:39 pm to
Sorry link is up now
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84900 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:41 pm to


This thread should be NSFW in all honesty.

I don't have a clue how you think Malone picked up the wrong guy though. It wasn't even much of a blitz - Wisky sent 4 guys.

Also, Clapp came back across BH's face as he was making the throw. Just a comedy of errors.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22157 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:44 pm to
It really is funny when you watch all the gifs in the OL thread. It's like bad video game graphics. We have OLinemen just shuffling in place not blocking anybody.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:45 pm to
I don't know how to put that on a coach. I mean there is plenty to put on them, but those guys all should know by now how to pick up there assignments. I mean maybe it is. Maybe they are not teaching enough situational assignment blocking. That is a major concern in itself. Pocic claimed they saw nearly all of those looks in practice from Aranda. That is even more concerning because they are still getting fooled at the line prior to the snap.
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1237 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:46 pm to
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I don't have a clue how you think Malone picked up the wrong guy though. It wasn't even much of a blitz - Wisky sent 4 guys.


The video explains why Malone (or any other COMPETENT left tackle) should have easily picked up Biegel to block (the OLB and not the blitzing corner). It REALLY is comical after watching it a view times!
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1237 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:47 pm to
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Maybe they are not teaching enough situational assignment blocking.


BINGO! This would be my guess.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84900 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:49 pm to
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Basically, Malone and Clapp (more blame on Malone though) both failed to recognize the slot corner and outside linebacker moving in position for a blitz PRIOR to the snap (this is easily noticeable if you watch the video and SHOULD have been picked up by our guys, Pocic sees it and tries to tell the left side of the line something in advance). Malone (Left Tackle) picks out the blitzing slot corner to block (the wrong guy to block once the Dline shifted), instead he should have blocked the OLB after he moves to the INSIDE shoulder of Malone


I know you're just parroting what the guy said in the video, but he's wrong. We have 5 in to protect. They brought 4 and neither side was really overloaded. Malone picks up the outside guy as he should because Clapp HAS to take the inside guy an Pocic has to get in front of the DT.

To make matters worse, Clapp's false start before the play on 1st and 10 is probably the only reason we're throwing there anyway. Clapp was serviceable otherwise, but those last two plays were fricking daggers.
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
8682 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:52 pm to
dear god, that play.....awful blocking, awful throw, then a cheap shot. Just wonderful.
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1237 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:54 pm to
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I know you're just parroting what the guy said in the video, but he's wrong. We have 5 in to protect. They brought 4 and neither side was really overloaded. Malone picks up the outside guy as he should because Clapp HAS to take the inside guy an Pocic has to get in front of the DT.


I just don't see it, the second before the snap it shows a 5 guy front (this is including the blitzing corner). Malone, knowing that our TE isn't going to stay in potection (runs a route), has to choose who to block. OR...he should have communicated with Clapp for them to recognize this and for Clapp to pick up Biegel, so that Malone can take the blitzing corner (maybe?). I agree with the guy when he says at this moment the left tackle should have blocked Biegel instead. Maybe I'm missing something. Anyways...this is just a piss poor job all around!
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:56 pm to
Speed of the game. harris should have hit the hot route. If he had, we would have picked up 6 or 8 yards and been out of bounds at the 28. Clock stopped.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16181 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 1:59 pm to
After seeing the 2 threads of Harris' throws and the O-line breakdown, it's very clear that the blame should be put on the O-line more so than Harris.

Besides the final interception, in which Harris was running for his life, he didn't throw any terrible passes. Some were a bit off target, but mostly catchable.

On the other hand, the O-line completely ruined a few drives. Plays that could've moved the chains, the ball was either dropped by the receivers, or the O-line failed to block.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84900 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 2:02 pm to
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Speed of the game. harris should have hit the hot route. If he had, we would have picked up 6 or 8 yards and been out of bounds at the 28. Clock stopped.




They were showing a blitz look from both sides, but Pocic clearly steps and turns to block to the left, giving an indication that he was going to take the DT. Clapp takes the OLB and Malone takes the CB and we're in business.

The way the guy in the video describes it, the CB would have come in free instead of the OLB. Neither had to get such a free release.
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