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re: Negatigers & Positigers: let's meet in the middle with this article:
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:42 pm to Fat Bastard
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:42 pm to Fat Bastard
quote:Actually, we do. We just don't do it as often as you. Last time LSU ate a shite sandwich of a season, the problems got fixed. Obviously some of us trust that they will be fixed again. You're just a miserable, negative prick who has nothing to do with LSU and constantly bashes it for kicks. Go frick yourself, troll.
But they don't. Care to know why? Because they don't have enough knowledge or haven't really watched many games or just ignore problems as long as we win Them not accepting whats been laid out proves this. They don't address it because they can't.
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:43 pm to ballscaster
ballscaster, not trying to be nosy here but do you happen to know a fellow named Kyle McK____?
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:43 pm to josh336
And if Cam is in fact another 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy, then I would love to seek out someone more with the times there as well.
Some of these teams we played that we were supposed to demolish had coaches who made you believe "if they can do that with the lack of talent there, imagine what they can do with talent".
Some of these teams we played that we were supposed to demolish had coaches who made you believe "if they can do that with the lack of talent there, imagine what they can do with talent".
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:45 pm to josh336
quote:And it isn't objective, therefore, so it will be dismissed as the type of rhetoric you see on ESPN's daily programming.
I will definitely throw out outliers when I see fit. Its my opinion.
Les Miles has won so many games as LSU's head coach that every loss is an outlier.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:46 pm to josh336
They only focus on record because it's all they know. Read my post above.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:46 pm to Starrkevious Ringo
Kyle McKock was a longtime friend of mine. May God rest his soul.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:47 pm to LuzianaFootball
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if Cam is in fact another 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy
he's not. go watch 2008-2012 highlights of the ravens
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:47 pm to ballscaster
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Kyle McKock was a longtime friend of mine. May God rest his soul.
Not the same.Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:47 pm to ballscaster
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Of course not. But you have to keep moving the goalposts to support your argument. "I don't count the 2007 Bama game," for example. You can't use comprehensive statistics to support your opinion. I can.
He is moving the goalposts in reference to analyzing his overall record to highlight what he perceives as a downward trend with 2011 being somewhat of an anomaly. The implication there being that Miles's overall record is still bolstered by the years he coached with Saban's recruits. So he makes an argument by extrapolating two winning percentages with/sans Saban's players. If you look at the data in this manner Miles appears to be in the elite category when coaching the talent Saban brought in and in the very good category without that talent.
I should preface that by saying doesn't mean no one is giving him credit for what he has accomplished with his own players. Just that a lot of people see ample room for improvement. More room for improvement than they feel there should be, considering the talent we bring in.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:48 pm to ballscaster
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s a perfectly good message board post, but it is a bad article.
The article is spot on. To say otherwise is extremely foolish.
There is not a damn thing wrong with wondering why (given the talent) LSU has not reached farther and why QB development is horrendous over an extended period of time. He gives credit where it is due but also poses doubt where it is fully warranted.
The QB statistics and opponent down-play are bizarre.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:50 pm to keeper05
I definitely give Les total credit for 2011. His team was nails. They just got hammered by a bigger nail on 1/9.
Although he was lucky JJ got busted, had he not, 12-0 might now have happened that year.
Although he was lucky JJ got busted, had he not, 12-0 might now have happened that year.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:51 pm to CharlesLSU
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The article is spot on. To say otherwise is extremely foolish.
They only prove the author's point.
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When Miles botches a decision, misses on a recruit, fails to make quality coaching hires, Team A is quick to hit the excuses, reminding everyone just how successful Miles has been. When Miles notches another top 5 recruiting class, Team B says they'll surely not meet their potential.
The bulk of this site (writers and readers) sit squarely with Team A, and while that's not a terrible place to be, it's a line of thinking that's as dangerous as any produced by Team B. There's no middle ground on an issue that's highly nuanced and much more gray than the black and white it's painted in.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:53 pm to keeper05
quote:And this is insanely misguided on two counts:
He is moving the goalposts in reference to analyzing his overall record to highlight what he perceives as a downward trend with 2011 being somewhat of an anomaly.
1) "Saban's players" was never a legitimate argument. It simply doesn't matter who recruited the players. The players who won the title in 2007 were all Miles' players.
2) 2011 was the final year of the UPWARD trend from 2008. 8-5 9-4 10-3 13-1. 2011 wasn't an anomaly; it was the final part of a trend.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:53 pm to josh336
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65-20 2008 on. That is 76.47% Winning percentage. Not bad, but not elite.
He was 34-6 with a majority of Saban players. 85% winning percentage. That is elite.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:53 pm to ballscaster
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Know what they call a guy who goes to the same bar twice a week? A regular.
Know what they call a guy who goes to the same bar twice an 8 yr span? They don't know who the frick that loser is.
Your an idiot...time, its a concept, learn it.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:54 pm to SabiDojo
from 2008-2013, (mett was a 2011 transfer) what QB talent did Les get on campus?
looking at the numbers, this is honestly mind blowing.
mett saved LSU in 2012 and 2013
looking at the numbers, this is honestly mind blowing.
mett saved LSU in 2012 and 2013
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:54 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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Cameron will increase the completion ratio if he can't he should be fired
He already did in his very first season. Given time he will continue to do so.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:54 pm to crookedicat
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Your an idiot
Never fails
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:55 pm to ballscaster
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The players who won the title in 2007 were all Miles' players.
but they weren't all recruited by miles. you do understand that correct?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:55 pm to okietiger
Ruh roh.
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