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re: My letter to the SEC re: offical review

Posted on 11/8/09 at 9:47 am to
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5303 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 9:47 am to
Posted by dudeilovebeer
Member since Jan 2008
839 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 9:48 am to
We definitely got screwed on the call. However I don't think it would have changed the outcome of the game. We'll never know for sure but it's doubtful that the O would have been able to capitalize.
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
33030 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 9:54 am to
They will read it and they will respond as they did to my letters and voice mails after the shaft we got in the swamp.

Right now there's a lot of pressure on Mike Slime and Rogers Redding..

All LSU fans should continue to call and write!!!

This crap must stop!!
Posted by TimTheTiger
Recently back to the EBR :)
Member since Jan 2009
1257 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Glad you are are sendiing letters to alert them. Otherwise, they won't know.


Guess who the better 2 loss team is, tangerine.

GFY.
Posted by CU-onda-BIU
[ROCK] right here [HARD PLACE]
Member since Jan 2005
4950 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:00 am to
here's mine --

quote:

So Commissioner Slive -- will I be fined for complaining about the refs? Seriously, at what point does the message get through that you have a significant problem with your officials? I am not going to suggest that LSU would have won the game. Quite frankly at that point, 'Bama's defense had taken over and would in all likelihood have preserved the victory. That however is not the point. What is the point is that no human being on the face of the planet with vision acuity sufficient only to get behind the wheel of a car can argue seeing an eighteen (18") gouge in the turf well inside the sideline.

Terrence Cody not penalized for taking off his helmet during the final play.
Personal foul against Arkansas.
Yesterday's failure to overturn the incomplete call on Peterson's interception.
The ridiculous unsportsmanlike calls in the LSU-Georgia game.

And the list just goes on and on. You want your officials to be heard not seen. And not analyzed. And not scrutinized for incompetence. The ultimate nightmare scenario is for officials to affect a game's outcome. Can you in all good conscience say that hasn't happened? How many excuses will you continue to make? How many crews will you suspend? Before long, there won't be any left.

Here's a novel idea. Rather than blindly stand behind a group that just week in and week out shows that it cannot handle the job, why not pledge publicly to become proactive in referee training? Why not admit that there's a problem? Admitting to the problem is the 1st step in the self-help process.
Posted by luvmesumlsu
DFW
Member since Dec 2005
2320 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Very nice, but before sending it I would go through and fix the (very) few spelling/grammatical/punctuation errors. An official message such as this one should be impeccable.

This! it's a great letter, but correct a few errors before sending!
Posted by soupsandwich
Member since Nov 2009
28 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:06 am to
quote:

This is how the SEC wanted it to play out. UF and Ala. undefeated.
Posted by MN Tigah
Hastings, MN
Member since Mar 2008
535 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:09 am to
First of all, JP, I like that you have done something to express our displeasure to the SEC commissioner. There definitely needs to be something done about the poor officiating in the SEC.

There is a point that you may have left out that seems to me is an important one. I believe that the officials, when uncertain about a change of possession play like a fumble or interception, are supposed to bias their call in favor of the ruling of the fumble or interception having occurred.

The official with the best view ran forward to mark the spot. He was watching the feet and the sideline. He clearly thought that it was an interception. He was over-ruled by an official that seemingly came out of nowhere to call the play an incompletion.

The officials failed to follow their guidance, which should have been a ruling in favor of the turnover. It should have taken conclusive video evidence to overturn the ruling of interception.

Even after watching the replay, I was steaming because they had used the wrong bias in making the initial ruling. I felt like the replay officials would not overturn the call on the field, and that is exactly what happened.

I also would like to know if it is OK to drag a player down by the face-mask during a dead ball situation. On the same play, flags were thrown for illegal motion and grabbing the face-mask. I believe that both penalties should have been assessed. The play does not have to be alive for a personal foul to be called. As it was, LSU was denied a possession and 10 more yards on that play. How can you pick up a flag for a personal foul? Nobody is talking about that one!

Keep up the good work on the SEC officiating. I may write a letter myself. Thanks for the sddresses.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26255 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Bamainmontg
Member since Aug 2009
120 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:16 am to
You guys are a hoot. I have never seen so much belly aching in my life. I guess that the SEC office is going to send you a letter stating that due to this letter they will be awarding LSU 10 more points and the win. By the way the reason that the headsets quit working in the Ala - Tenn game was because the brilliant Tenn staff plugged to may different things into the the outlet that the headsets were on causing the curcuit breaker to trip. The replay system being down at the beginning of the game caused the officials not to be able to review a catch made by our tightend that was ruled incomplete. This call would have been most likely overturned since the replay showed that it was a catch.
Posted by MN Tigah
Hastings, MN
Member since Mar 2008
535 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:20 am to
You can have that catch. It wasn't a game changing call, so STFU!
Posted by Purple Forever
Someplace Special on the Bayou
Member since Aug 2008
829 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:25 am to
"that LSU was cheated of at least one crucial possession"


You shouldnt have put that wording in your letter, as no recipient will take you serious.

They'll stop reading at your cheating claim.
Posted by Proejo
Dallas
Member since Oct 2007
5889 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:27 am to
"Dear Commissioner Mike Slive,

I know this has been a rough month for you. What with everyone suggesting that the SEC officials want to see Florida and Alabama in the SEC championship game no matter what the actual game results might be. Furthermore, I know that generally speaking the SEC's issue has been with judgment calls, celebration penalties on A.J. Green, personal fouls on some Arkansas defensive players -- it's okay, no one knows anyone's name that plays for Arkansas other than Ryan Mallet, it will be our secret -- missed calls in favor of Florida against Mississippi State, allowing Terrence Cody, the largest man on earth who still resembles a girl, to play without his helmet on. But this latest move, ignoring a clear interception by LSU's Patrick Peterson, has me steaming mad. What's the point of instant replay if you're going to use it and still get the play wrong?

That's why I'm making you an offer, I will work as instant replay reviewer for any televised SEC game.

For free.

Do you understand what a deal you're getting here, Commissioner Slive? I will work for the SEC for absolutely free. And I won't miss any calls.

Zero.

You know why? Two reasons, first, I don't care who wins the games and, second, because I can watch television replays and tell whether or not people intercept passes. For instance, unlike your replay officials, I watched today's Alabama-LSU game. And when Patrick Peterson intercepted Greg McElroy with just under 6 minutes to play in the game, I said, "Wow, that's a hell of an interception."

You know how I knew?

Because like the rest of America, I saw Peterson catch the football and get not one, but two feet in bounds. That's one more foot in bounds than you actually need, Mr. Slive. Yet, somehow the man you pay to sit in a booth and watch the replay didn't see this. He must have been blind ... or drunk. Perhaps he was both, so drunk he'd become blind. That's okay, I've been to Galette's before in Tuscaloosa and gotten that drunk. Although, to be fair, that's always been after a game.

And here's my promise to you Commissioner Slive, I won't even drink during the games when I'm working as your replay official. I'll be stone cold sober. I won't even pause the television and look closely at the cheerleaders on the sideline. Do you know how hard it is not to do that?

And I won't pause my DVR and spend ten minutes thinking about how awesome it was the CBS camera caught a 'Bama fan with four fingers doing the fourth quarter sign as they went to commercial break.

Nope, I'm completely committed to the game.

I won't even spend any time thinking about the press conference I would stage if I were Les Miles. I'd load stacks of hundred dollar bills until I had 300 stacks, or $30,000 in all, into a black garbage bag and carry it into my press conference. Then, before I even said anything, I'd turn up the garbage bag and dump all the cash out onto the table in front of the reporters.

I'd let it all spill around on the ground and then I'd walk to the microphone and say this:

"Mike Slive can come pick up this money when he gets a chance. Because that official who blew that call in the replay booth doesn't deserve to ever work another game. We're not talking about a blown judgment call, or a decision made in the heat of the game when everyone is moving a million miles an hour. We're talking about a fat man sitting in front of a television and making a dispassionate decision based on what he sees.

"And he blew it.

"Big time.

"I'd sooner have Clay Travis making the decisions from his house in Nashville."

Amen, Les.

And, just think Mike, you'll get me for free.

How much worse can I really be?

By the way, just between us, could you please explain to me why the guy who does instant replay review actually needs to be in the stadium? Shouldn't he be in a special replay truck with 48 television screens? Or in a NASA-like center somewhere in a bunker beneath the ground in an undisclosed location? With a bank of television screens so large in front of him that the astronauts would be jealous?

Otherwise, doesn't it defeat the purpose? I mean, just to have one dorky guy sitting in a booth squinting at one television? Can't you do more with the multi-billion dollar contract? Shouldn't America demand that you do more?

Anyway, that may be too many questions. And I didn't write this letter to make your life more difficult Commissioner Slive. You and I, we should be buddies. We're both lawyers. I tan better than you do. (Seriously, do you ever go outside?) But other than that we're like two peas in a pod, you and me, Mike.

Except, you know, for the rooting for Alabama and Florida to be in the championship game part.

But I've gotten off topic. Instead of continuing about how much alike we are -- you like William Faulkner, Chik-fil-A sandwiches, the Robotech cartoon, and thongs on shapely rears too, don't you, Mike -- why don't you allow me to list my assets?

Yep, consider this my resume for SEC replay official status:

1. I have a color television.

And it's bought and paid for.

100 percent mine.

Judging by your guy at Bama's decision today, he doesn't have a color television. Otherwise he would have seen the clean distinction between a foot coming down in the green grass and a foot coming down in the white out-of-bounds area.

2. I have an HD television.

Again, if your guy had HD he would have seen the dirt popping up from not one, but two different feet in bounds.

3. I have the Internets in my house.

Of course, the Internets are brought to me by Comcast so at any moment they might stop working. Even still, I could theoretically watch the game online as well.

Why does that matter?

I could get to within a millimeter of the screen and zoom it up to perfect definition. That way I could confirm what I saw with my bare eyes: LSU intercepted that pass.

4. I've never taken money or bet on a game I was calling.

Did that one hit too close to the striped vest?

Good.

5. I have a law degree from Vanderbilt and am licensed to practice law in the Southland.

This means I'm an SEC grad whose judgment an impartial governing body has vouched for. Can you say the same about your officials?

Didn't think so.

It's a no brainer, Mike. Just shoot me an email and I'll be ready to go by next week.

Because as my five assets listed above illustrate, I'm much more qualified than most of the people working in the replay booth.

I look forward to hearing back from you.

Sincerely,

Clay Travis"

quote:

Clay Travis is the author of three books. His latest, "On Rocky Top: A Front Row Seat to The End of an Era" chronicles the 2008 Tennessee football season and is on sale now.[/


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This post was edited on 11/8/09 at 10:29 am
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26255 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:29 am to
quote:

as no recipient will take you serious.


Good, they shouldn't. I'm not a replay official. That's their job to hire competent replay officials, not mine.
Posted by TIGER PASS
WEST MONROE
Member since May 2006
706 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:35 am to
Yea Snatchy, and you also have a vagina.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Guess who the better 2 loss team is, tangerine.


What the heck? bama has two losses?

quote:

GFY

This post was edited on 11/8/09 at 10:38 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:36 am to
In all honesty, they won't read the letter---too long for busy people.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26255 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:37 am to
Someone will. They always do.
Posted by Bayoudaddy
Haslet, TX.
Member since Jun 2009
97 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:43 am to
Would like to see the response you receive.
Posted by LSUBraingirl
Kingwood
Member since Oct 2008
155 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 10:47 am to
Proejo, I think I am in love! I have never laughed so hard at any document in my entire life. I think you should consider seriously sending this letter.
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