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My fix for tiger band
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:10 am
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:10 am
Quick fix go back to 280 total member tiger band like in the late 1980. but with one difference all brass and percussion. You would add more sound and they would fit nice in that new band complex. The tigerband is by far the most exciting part of the lsu experience for me. Better yet lets not mess with perfection, give them there new home and leave them along. That is all !!
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:12 am to polkchop1
quote:Serious question, what instruments does this include? Drums? Help a jock out brah.
percussion
quote:Definitely AS exciting and cherished as anything else in my home.
The tigerband is by far the most exciting part of the lsu experience for me.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:17 am to Geauxtiga
quote:
Serious question, what instruments does this include? Drums? Help a jock out brah.
Cymbals, bass drums, snare drums, tom-toms.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:21 am to polkchop1
Cutting the band at all is really just dumb. The people in charge at LSU really are stupid when it comes to PR - they don't remember the public outrage just 5 months ago because the Pep Band wasn't going to go to Seattle?
I am sure there are at least 100 other much less worthwhile programs or projects that can be cut, operational inefficiencies that can be improved to save money, and poor performing employees that can be terminated tomorrow without being missed. But to cut something that the LSU family takes great pride in and represents LSU so well...dumb.
BTW, never been in the band - don't even know how to play an instrument. Geaux Tiger Band.
The whole mess is the fault of state government but thats a continuing topic for the Poli Board.
I am sure there are at least 100 other much less worthwhile programs or projects that can be cut, operational inefficiencies that can be improved to save money, and poor performing employees that can be terminated tomorrow without being missed. But to cut something that the LSU family takes great pride in and represents LSU so well...dumb.
BTW, never been in the band - don't even know how to play an instrument. Geaux Tiger Band.
The whole mess is the fault of state government but thats a continuing topic for the Poli Board.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:28 am to EST
quote:
The whole mess is the fault of state government but thats a continuing topic for the Poli Board.
next time leave it on the poli board then. But I'm pretty sure the whole country is having a few problems, not just the state.
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they don't remember the public outrage just 5 months ago because the Pep Band wasn't going to go to Seattle?
smaller than a 10% cut to the band (which probably won't be noticed by the average fan) is far different than having no band at all.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:29 am to LSUBanker
quote:Thanks, now I got it.
Cymbals, bass drums, snare drums, tom-toms.
Things you hit, Alex, for a hundred.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:32 am to Skooter
quote:
next time leave it on the poli board then. But I'm pretty sure the whole country is having a few problems, not just the state.
Uh, I didn't start this thread - and its relative to Tiger Band - and in case you've never noticed over the years, LSU always gets screwed during recessions because our state government is corrupt and fails to plan ahead. If the state had their priorities right then LSU could better weather tight economic times and we wouldn't have to worry about cutting the Tiger Band - or much else at LSU.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:48 am to polkchop1
Not a bad idea. Make the band more line a drum and bugle corps. I was never a fan of woodwinds in a marching band. Eliminate the oboes and piccolos.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:56 am to boxcarbarney
quote:
Not a bad idea. Make the band more line a drum and bugle corps. I was never a fan of woodwinds in a marching band. Eliminate the oboes and piccolos.
There are no oboes in Tiger Band.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:57 am to boxcarbarney
There aren't any oboes in marching band and what are you going to do for "Hey Fightin Tigers" with no piccs
Posted on 1/9/10 at 10:00 am to boxcarbarney
quote:
Not a bad idea. Make the band more line a drum and bugle corps. I was never a fan of woodwinds in a marching band.
In actual fact, if you cut the woodwinds, there are parts of Hey Fightin' Tigers that would suffer, and even the average person would notice.
And while the woods don't add tons of volume they add fullness to the sound.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 10:22 am to Tigertown in ATL
Just saying if they had to make cuts it should be woodwinds, not brass.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 11:14 am to polkchop1
Percussion also includes the cowbell. I don't know about you, but I got a fever and the only cure is...more cowbell!
Seriously, is there some news about changing the size of Tiger Band? Can you provide a link?
I was in TB '71 - '74 and we had 192 instruments plus the auxiliaries. Stadia were smaller then and people actually sat still and watched halftimes more than today. I blame the TV networks for pulling their coverage years ago - they used to show a couple of minutes of each band and still got in scores and game commentary.
Woodwinds are the butt of jokes even in the band ranks, but no one questions their role or need. This is a university group and there are a lot of music majors that should have the opportunity to keep playing in marching band in college and also earn the service award scholarship. And it has been noted already that winds add color to the sound and the piccolo in particular is essential to Hey Fightin' Tigers. As a trombone player I choke on these words LOL.
Certainly the band could be trimmed by one company front if budget gets critical but it would have to cut accross the board. I would reduce the color guard by a few but the Golden Girls are money and should not be touched. Unless they ask to be touched LOL.
Please update this Golden Band vet with a link if there is news about band size. I do know that Dr. Morehouse may not be promoted to director as most of us expected. There is a national search underway and the feeling among some in the power structure is that retaining her would not bring any new innovation and a continuation of the Wickes style from nearly 30 years to another 20 years of essentially '80s corps marching style and music. One music school source told me many comments came from fans and TAF types about how badly Tiger Band was shown up by Ohio State in the NC game and that was the beginning of the end for the current staff. Who knows, I'll sit on the fence and watch with great interest.
Seriously, is there some news about changing the size of Tiger Band? Can you provide a link?
I was in TB '71 - '74 and we had 192 instruments plus the auxiliaries. Stadia were smaller then and people actually sat still and watched halftimes more than today. I blame the TV networks for pulling their coverage years ago - they used to show a couple of minutes of each band and still got in scores and game commentary.
Woodwinds are the butt of jokes even in the band ranks, but no one questions their role or need. This is a university group and there are a lot of music majors that should have the opportunity to keep playing in marching band in college and also earn the service award scholarship. And it has been noted already that winds add color to the sound and the piccolo in particular is essential to Hey Fightin' Tigers. As a trombone player I choke on these words LOL.
Certainly the band could be trimmed by one company front if budget gets critical but it would have to cut accross the board. I would reduce the color guard by a few but the Golden Girls are money and should not be touched. Unless they ask to be touched LOL.
Please update this Golden Band vet with a link if there is news about band size. I do know that Dr. Morehouse may not be promoted to director as most of us expected. There is a national search underway and the feeling among some in the power structure is that retaining her would not bring any new innovation and a continuation of the Wickes style from nearly 30 years to another 20 years of essentially '80s corps marching style and music. One music school source told me many comments came from fans and TAF types about how badly Tiger Band was shown up by Ohio State in the NC game and that was the beginning of the end for the current staff. Who knows, I'll sit on the fence and watch with great interest.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 11:17 am to Tiger TBone
quote:
the Golden Girls are money and should not be touched. Unless they ask to be touched LOL.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 11:20 am to Tiger TBone
Never mind about the link. I found another thread with an excerpt about planned cuts and how LSU proposes to make ends meet.
This is tough given the financial situation. I hope they don't cut meat and look for fat elsewhere. Tiger Band is an important element of campus life and spirit building in our mega-million dollar athletic program.
This is tough given the financial situation. I hope they don't cut meat and look for fat elsewhere. Tiger Band is an important element of campus life and spirit building in our mega-million dollar athletic program.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 11:22 am to Tiger TBone
I posted this email last night
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 8, 2010
BATON ROUGE – LSU submitted its mid-year budget-reduction plan to the LSU System Office today. In the budget-reduction plan, the university slashed $12.66 million from its operating budget in response to mid-year budget cuts. This brings the total impact on LSU’s budget to approximately $43 million in the last 12 months.
The rescission was dictated by an $84 million reduction in funds for higher education by the state of Louisiana. Included in the submission are layoffs, position eliminations and the altering of campus services.
Approximately 166 positions will be affected either through elimination of vacant and filled positions or changes in source of funds. These positions include teaching and research/economic development related jobs.
“As the state’s Flagship University, these changes are not in the best interest of LSU and the people the university serves,” said LSU Chancellor Michael Martin. “Unfortunately, our status as a Tier One institution, a cornerstone of the Flagship Agenda, is at risk as these cuts will clearly impact the scope and quality of LSU’s core services.”
The mid-year budget-reduction plan was developed by academic and nonacademic units, which submitted their individual budget reductions to the LSU Office of Budget & Planning. These include laying off employees or eliminating vacant positions; eliminating graduate assistantships and undergraduate student positions; reducing or eliminating faculty travel, scientific equipment and technology upgrades.
“We have reduced both jobs and services on the LSU campus to meet this mid-year cut and all indications are there is more to come in 2011,” Martin said. “In this round of cuts, a few people lost their jobs, and the elimination of additional vacant positions means a heavier workload on a workforce that is already stressed by previous cuts.”
“We had to take this immediate action to address mid-year cuts, but we must quickly look at the larger objective which is to address the long-term financial impact to the university as we face further cuts in the year ahead,” Martin said. “We have to look closely at eliminating centers, institutes and academic programs and re-evaluate how we do business.”
Among the most significant reductions on campus listed in the mid-year budget reduction includes the cancelation of several required courses, which may result delaying some students’ anticipated graduation dates; fewer counselors, leading to a higher counselor-to-student ratio; and cancellation of faculty searches. Many of these budget reduction measures will jeopardize future accreditations for programs and degree offerings.
Unique programs and offerings at LSU will also be affected by the mid-year budget cut. These range from degrees offered to lab space on campus to fulfilling state initiatives, including but not limited to the following:
The College of Engineering’s ability to continue educating a majority of the engineering and construction management graduates in Louisiana will be affected. Currently, LSU educates about 72 percent of the state’s graduates in those fields. Based on workforce predictions through 2016, there is already a shortfall of 230 engineering and construction management graduates to fill employment needs.
The Securities Markets Analysis Research and Trading, or SMART, Lab in the E. J. Ourso College of Business is at risk of being closed.
The Baton Rouge Region and Louisiana Science and Engineering Fairs will be curtailed, affecting approximately 1,100 Louisiana middle- and high-school students.
The Center for Computation & Technology will alter its strategic plan by dropping important areas to the state such as coastal modeling used to predict storm surges during hurricanes.
Students will see the impacts of the budget reduction in other ways, such as less visiting scholars and guest lecturers; an impact on minority student recruitment through the budget reductions for the Office of Multicultural Affairs and African American Cultural Center; and a smaller Tiger Marching Band.
Visitors to campus may also notice an impact on LSU’s buildings and grounds, as the Office of Facility Services was forced to reduce its workforce. The $1.07 million cut to the Facility Services’ budget will hinder its ability to maintain LSU’s more than 11.3 million square feet found in 250 principle buildings.
While these cuts and future ones will impact the university, LSU will move forward as a mission-oriented institution facing a difficult financial situation.
“These cuts and the cuts we face in the future are damaging,” Martin said. “They hurt severely. We will fundamentally and structurally change the university.”
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 8, 2010
BATON ROUGE – LSU submitted its mid-year budget-reduction plan to the LSU System Office today. In the budget-reduction plan, the university slashed $12.66 million from its operating budget in response to mid-year budget cuts. This brings the total impact on LSU’s budget to approximately $43 million in the last 12 months.
The rescission was dictated by an $84 million reduction in funds for higher education by the state of Louisiana. Included in the submission are layoffs, position eliminations and the altering of campus services.
Approximately 166 positions will be affected either through elimination of vacant and filled positions or changes in source of funds. These positions include teaching and research/economic development related jobs.
“As the state’s Flagship University, these changes are not in the best interest of LSU and the people the university serves,” said LSU Chancellor Michael Martin. “Unfortunately, our status as a Tier One institution, a cornerstone of the Flagship Agenda, is at risk as these cuts will clearly impact the scope and quality of LSU’s core services.”
The mid-year budget-reduction plan was developed by academic and nonacademic units, which submitted their individual budget reductions to the LSU Office of Budget & Planning. These include laying off employees or eliminating vacant positions; eliminating graduate assistantships and undergraduate student positions; reducing or eliminating faculty travel, scientific equipment and technology upgrades.
“We have reduced both jobs and services on the LSU campus to meet this mid-year cut and all indications are there is more to come in 2011,” Martin said. “In this round of cuts, a few people lost their jobs, and the elimination of additional vacant positions means a heavier workload on a workforce that is already stressed by previous cuts.”
“We had to take this immediate action to address mid-year cuts, but we must quickly look at the larger objective which is to address the long-term financial impact to the university as we face further cuts in the year ahead,” Martin said. “We have to look closely at eliminating centers, institutes and academic programs and re-evaluate how we do business.”
Among the most significant reductions on campus listed in the mid-year budget reduction includes the cancelation of several required courses, which may result delaying some students’ anticipated graduation dates; fewer counselors, leading to a higher counselor-to-student ratio; and cancellation of faculty searches. Many of these budget reduction measures will jeopardize future accreditations for programs and degree offerings.
Unique programs and offerings at LSU will also be affected by the mid-year budget cut. These range from degrees offered to lab space on campus to fulfilling state initiatives, including but not limited to the following:
The College of Engineering’s ability to continue educating a majority of the engineering and construction management graduates in Louisiana will be affected. Currently, LSU educates about 72 percent of the state’s graduates in those fields. Based on workforce predictions through 2016, there is already a shortfall of 230 engineering and construction management graduates to fill employment needs.
The Securities Markets Analysis Research and Trading, or SMART, Lab in the E. J. Ourso College of Business is at risk of being closed.
The Baton Rouge Region and Louisiana Science and Engineering Fairs will be curtailed, affecting approximately 1,100 Louisiana middle- and high-school students.
The Center for Computation & Technology will alter its strategic plan by dropping important areas to the state such as coastal modeling used to predict storm surges during hurricanes.
Students will see the impacts of the budget reduction in other ways, such as less visiting scholars and guest lecturers; an impact on minority student recruitment through the budget reductions for the Office of Multicultural Affairs and African American Cultural Center; and a smaller Tiger Marching Band.
Visitors to campus may also notice an impact on LSU’s buildings and grounds, as the Office of Facility Services was forced to reduce its workforce. The $1.07 million cut to the Facility Services’ budget will hinder its ability to maintain LSU’s more than 11.3 million square feet found in 250 principle buildings.
While these cuts and future ones will impact the university, LSU will move forward as a mission-oriented institution facing a difficult financial situation.
“These cuts and the cuts we face in the future are damaging,” Martin said. “They hurt severely. We will fundamentally and structurally change the university.”
Posted on 1/9/10 at 11:27 am to EST
quote:
I am sure there are at least 100 other much less worthwhile programs or projects that can be cut
I agree. There is this position which is a useless one - LSU vice provost for Equity, Diversity & Community Outreach. That's a new one that wasn't needed when I was in school and I really doubt it is truly needed (or even wanted by many) now. Cut that position.
How about CUP? Is it really needed and how much money does it get? Here's an article and I would cut all of this.
LINK
There are many great Tiger Band alums out there that have contributed very much not only to LSU but to the entire world such as emmy award winning composer Julie Giroux.
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