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Most of these coaches are stealing money

Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:13 am
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
7986 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:13 am
To not call a spy in the second half and then have the audacity to say that’s what you should’ve done after the game. It’s mind boggling. Were they throwing the game? I mean with all that experience they can’t be that stupid right?
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3652 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:15 am to
I really think they were trying to go the LSU defense vs Manziel in 2012 route. That first sack on Milroe was the blueprint, keep your rush lanes, don't go too far up field and make a fence with no easy escape routes and make him throw or take the sack. Only problem was, as the game went on, guys consistently got out of their rush lanes and went upfield too far allowing lanes for Milroe to escape. Would a spy have helped, it's possible. The truth is though that LSU hasn't been effective at any scheme they've tried defensively this season which is why wholesale staff changes to the defensive side of the ball are-a-comin.


I know people won't want to hear this, but the scheme during this season hasn't been entirely a shiteshow. Lots of times, LSU has employed techniques that we have seen be very very succesful in the past. Problem has been the fundamentals and individual techniques to execute those schemes, which is still on the coaches to teach and instill in the players.
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 10:19 am
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21816 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:16 am to
They are that stupid
Posted by Rdanielson38
Member since Oct 2023
208 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:17 am to
Well, look at the staff. You have a DC who wasn’t coordinating anything for 3 years and before that was a title while the HC coordinated the defense, a DL coach who hasn’t coached DL for 20 years, a safety coach who was fired 2x including by his current boss, and a CB coach whose experience is high school coach and assistant ST coordinator in the NFL for a year. Who is the defensive genius in that room?
Posted by BayouBaw84
Thibodaux
Member since Oct 2016
1193 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:19 am to
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Well, look at the staff. You have a DC who wasn’t coordinating anything for 3 years and before that was a title while the HC coordinated the defense, a DL coach who hasn’t coached DL for 20 years, a safety coach who was fired 2x including by his current boss, and a CB coach whose experience is high school coach and assistant ST coordinator in the NFL for a year. Who is the defensive genius in that room?
Thats a whole lot of proof Kelly isn’t the CEO he was hired to be. Sounds like he put together a shite staff, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3652 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:21 am to
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Well, look at the staff. You have a DC who wasn’t coordinating anything for 3 years and before that was a title while the HC coordinated the defense, a DL coach who hasn’t coached DL for 20 years, a safety coach who was fired 2x including by his current boss, and a CB coach whose experience is high school coach and assistant ST coordinator in the NFL for a year. Who is the defensive genius in that room?



I promise, this is not a "take up for the coaches" post. The film shows me that House has actually called decent schemes and plays this year but the players just flat suck. They're in the hole and miss tackles, they take bad angles, misplay balls in the air. 100% that is still on the coaches because it's your job to teach fundamentals to your players so they can execute your schemes but I do think it's more of our players are poorly coached on fundamentals as opposed to just stupid alignments and schemes.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3652 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:22 am to
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Thats a whole lot of proof Kelly isn’t the CEO he was hired to be. Sounds like he put together a shite staff, especially on the defensive side of the ball.



No doubt this defensive staff hasn't been good which is the weird thing. Kelly has been really really good at hiring DC's his whole career. Hopefully this is just a one off.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12083 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:22 am to
They once called them "Carpetbaggers".
Penalize a player for not being ten minutes early for a meeting.
The entire coaching staff, paid millions, admit they had a spy package in their defensive plan, yet no one had the moxie to call the play.
Why is a player omitted from the game plan, for being tardy, yet the coaches continue to be paid.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3652 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:25 am to
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The entire coaching staff, paid millions, admit they had a spy package in their defensive plan, yet no one had the moxie to call the play.



Question, if the players haven't executed defensively with any scheme this season, including running a spy against Jordan Travis, what makes you think that would've magically stopped Alabama? This isn't to defend the coaches either, it's just that we are having the wrong conversation. The conversation should be "why aren't our players fundamentally sound in their techniques?" The coaches still deserve to be canned, but it's not because of a bad scheme imo. It's because our players don't do basic things correctly.



Perfect example was the triple option that Milroe scored on. Everyone knows basic principles of stopping triple option are as follows.

1) End takes the dive
2) Linebacker takes the QB
3) Safety takes the pitch man

That's basic football fundamentals 101. On that play in particular, the end takes the dive, and Major Burns takes the pitch man. Greg Penn however also takes the pitch man, leaving no one to account for Milroe. That's not a scheme thing, the player was there. He just broke down on his fundamentals and that is the real conversation and failure of this defensive coaching staff.
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 10:30 am
Posted by OJsLifeCoach
NYC
Member since Aug 2023
1199 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:29 am to
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You have a DC who wasn’t coordinating anything for 3 years and before that was a title while the HC coordinated the defense, a DL coach who hasn’t coached DL for 20 years, a safety coach who was fired 2x including by his current boss, and a CB coach whose experience is high school coach and assistant ST coordinator in the NFL for a year. Who is the defensive genius in that room?


You know what's frustrating? That this is what the 100 million dollar man put together.
Posted by Flightnclouds
Member since Sep 2018
1120 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:51 am to
Hold up. I was told we have an adult in charge. You trying to tell me using really cool words during a press conference doesn’t win football games.
Posted by Rdanielson38
Member since Oct 2023
208 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:01 am to
What’s disgusting is Kelly should have surveyed the DB room when he arrived and said I need to really focus here. After all, there are only so many Louisiana kids 5th year DB transfers available to fill spots for a year. Instead he hires a safety coach he knows damn well can’t recruit and never has been able to recruit and a CB coach who has never recruited before in his life other than middle school kids to a private high school.
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 11:02 am
Posted by 1947LSUFreshman
SE of Raleigh
Member since Nov 2022
347 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:07 am to

They are that stupid
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That may be but it doesn’t matter what scheme is called (on either side of the ball) if players take forever or don’t shed their block. Slow to shed the block has been a problem all season.
Posted by Homer Pelican
Homer la
Member since Dec 2021
1937 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:09 am to
Get a life dude. Look in the mirror at yourself
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5151 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:16 am to
I’m sure you’d be a much smarter coach.


Clown
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29270 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:29 am to
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Question, if the players haven't executed defensively with any scheme this season, including running a spy against Jordan Travis, what makes you think that would've magically stopped Alabama? This isn't to defend the coaches either, it's just that we are having the wrong conversation. The conversation should be "why aren't our players fundamentally sound in their techniques?" The coaches still deserve to be canned, but it's not because of a bad scheme imo. It's because our players don't do basic things correctly.



Perfect example was the triple option that Milroe scored on. Everyone knows basic principles of stopping triple option are as follows.

1) End takes the dive
2) Linebacker takes the QB
3) Safety takes the pitch man

That's basic football fundamentals 101. On that play in particular, the end takes the dive, and Major Burns takes the pitch man. Greg Penn however also takes the pitch man, leaving no one to account for Milroe. That's not a scheme thing, the player was there. He just broke down on his fundamentals and that is the real conversation and failure of this defensive coaching staff.


all of this! the fundementals are not there. team looks very unprepared and poorly coached.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27360 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:33 am to
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Thats a whole lot of proof Kelly isn’t the CEO he was hired to be. Sounds like he put together a shite staff, especially on the defensive side of the ball.



He did. And he has to own it. Better get it fixed after the season.

If it isn't better next yr people will call for his head.
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
1815 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 12:02 pm to
Seems like they sure say a lot of “shoulda done “ after games are over.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14642 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 12:22 pm to

The gif defines Matt House this season.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5859 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 12:28 pm to
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shoulda
taken care of the problem and replaced the defensive clown coaches. The players have the talent but basics have not been taught or emphasized. I know some disagree but ALL of this years failures fall on the coaches.
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