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re: More shocking, Spieth or Smylie

Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:29 am to
Posted by purplepylon
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:29 am to
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Smylie is ranked #48 in the world. That was an EPIC collapse for a top 50 golfer.



Rickie Fowler shot an 80. He is ranked 5th in the world
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:32 am to
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Smylie was expected to do that

He was expected to shoot his worst round of the tournament, by far, on the last and most inportant day? I don't know if you're trying to make him look better, but that won't do it.
Posted by KingBeingking
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:57 am to
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He was expected to shoot his worst round of the tournament, by far, on the last and most inportant day? I don't know if you're trying to make him look better, but that won't do it.


Yes. On the last day, in the last group of the Masters, you're no longer JUST playing golf. There are a lot of emotions and distractions. He's never dealt with that in the PGA in ANY tournament.

So yeah, he was expected to shoot his worst score.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:48 am to
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He was expected to shoot his worst round of the tournament, by far, on the last and most inportant day? I don't know if you're trying to make him look better, but that won't do it.

He was solo 2nd with 18 holes left to play and you could have placed a bet on him to win and got 12/1 odds. Spieth, just one stroke ahead, was 11/10 to win. Day, Matsuyama, and DJ all had better odds than Smylie before they teed it up on Sunday and all three of them were 2 strokes behind Smylie.

So yea, he was expected to shoot his worst round by far.

Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:57 am to
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48 in the world. That was an EPIC collapse for a top 50 golfer.


Byeong-hun An shot 72-77 and missed the cut. He's ranked 26 in the world. EPIC collapse.
Posted by TNTigerman
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:24 pm to
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He missed a short iron on a par 3 by 30 yards

He missed his target by 30 feet, 40 feet at most.

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Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:48 pm to
Of the two, I guess I would have to say Smylie.

It was shocking to see Spieth lose like he did and the quad bogey was bad, but he had 5 bogeys every round except for the 1st.

In the first round he had 0 bogeys and shot a 6 under. He then followed that with a 2 over, 1 over & 1 over. The only reason he was the leader was because he had a great 1st round, not because he played well the first 3 days then chocked it away on the 4th.
Posted by atltiger6487
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:54 pm to
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He missed a short iron on a par 3 by 30 yards


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He missed his target by 30 feet, 40 feet at most.


on his first shot, yes.

But on his second shot (which barely made the water) I'd say he missed by 25 yards.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:30 pm to
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Spieth and it's not close imo



This. People need to use perspective here. Spieth Blew up with a 5 stroke lead, Smylie blew up after he had already fallen behind with little hope of winning.

Spieth has proven to be one of the best scramblers and putters on tour. He is arguably the best player in the world, and at this moment he has clearly been top 2 in the past 18 months. A quad bogey on the back is pertty rough.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:46 pm to
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The only reason he was the leader was because he had a great 1st round, not because he played well the first 3 days then chocked it away on the 4th.

He could have shot 1 under on day 1 and still been in the lead heading onto the back 9 on Sunday. 1 or 2 over par are still good scores under those conditions.

Think about this: He had a 5 shot lead after 63 of 72 holes. And lost by THREE!!!
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:25 pm to
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Think about this: He had a 5 shot lead after 63 of 72 holes. And lost by THREE!!!


I understand that, but didn't he have a string of 4-5 birdies before the 4 over hole? And, he still had 4 more bogies on that day.
Posted by SaturdayTraditions
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:48 pm to
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Smylie lost a lot of money yesterday


No denying this, but so far this year:

3 Top 10s(1 win)
7 Top 25s
15 tounaments (made cut 13 times)= 56 Rounds
$2,075,938 in earnings

#13 in the Money List


$2,075,938/56=$37,070.32 per round
1 round = Approx. 4 hours
$37,070.32/4= $9267.58 per hour

Not a bad paycheck at all! I know he has practice time and all that involved as well... these are basic numbers not an actual value of the work he does to compete at that level.

So far the other ten former tiger golfers who play professionally( 5 men and 5 women) have won only $1,324,593 combined...

He is also ranked #32 on the Ryder Cup leaderboard

This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 3:05 pm
Posted by larry289
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:09 pm to
It's golf and these things happen, even in the big time. Having been a spectator twice at that hole, the proper play for Speith with his lead would have been a 3/4 7-iron into the bunker. Easy shot from there, take his par or bogey and move on. What you see on TV is very deceiving as to the difficulty of the hole...it was playing the most difficult on Sunday.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 11:38 am to
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Smylie lost a lot of money yesterday


I think that remains to be seen. I would have to think the experience he earned over the past weekend will pay dividends over the course of his career. To be able to look back and know that he could have beaten Spieth if he kept his composure is huge. I think after this weekend, he probably knows he can play with anyone in the world.
Posted by Thorny
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:06 pm to
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It's golf and these things happen, even in the big time. Having been a spectator twice at that hole, the proper play for Speith with his lead would have been a 3/4 7-iron into the bunker. Easy shot from there, take his par or bogey and move on. What you see on TV is very deceiving as to the difficulty of the hole...it was playing the most difficult on Sunday.



I agree with this. The 12th is famous for blowing up leaders on Sunday. Speith let himself think he needed to be aggressive with his first shot to try to overcome the two bogeys he had just played. He'll have to learn from that. There are places to make up strokes at Augusta National (well for these guys, any way) and 12 is definitely not one of them.
Posted by Damnstrong620
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:33 pm to
Your question should have been...what's more shocking, speiths quad bogie at 12 or smylie shooting a 67 on Saturday and being in the last pairing at the masters.

Smylie wasn't expected to succeed in that spot. I didn't expect an 81 on Sunday and I doubt he did either. But it was a tough spot especially being paired with Speith.

Both will be back to form in the next one!
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