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re: Miles talking about QBs
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:40 pm to Nuts4LSU
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:40 pm to Nuts4LSU
Did Miles fish all summer? I am really starting to doubt my support for him the last couple of years.
JJ has a full year under his belt, he can either handle the job or he can't. If he doesn't know his role at this point he will never be a QB that is worth a shite.
What the frick have they been doing all offseason?
JJ has a full year under his belt, he can either handle the job or he can't. If he doesn't know his role at this point he will never be a QB that is worth a shite.
What the frick have they been doing all offseason?
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Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:44 pm to Nuts4LSU
Wow, you have waaaay too much time on your hands. 
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:45 pm to Nuts4LSU
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:48 pm to Uncommon Cents
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SPRING GAME!! OH NO!!!! Not the SPRING GAME curse. We are dooooomed because of a scripted performance in a controled meaningless scrimmage?
That's it?
That's not what I said. I said people have been concerned about neither of these guys improving since we saw them in the Spring Game. The reason people were so concerned about their performance in the Spring Game is that everyone already saw Lee and Jefferson play poorly in 2009 and most intelligent people believe that one of them needed to step up their game. Then the Spring Game comes and Lee looked ho-hum and Jefferson looked worse and people became more concerned. It's not an evaluation based off the Spring Game alone. The Spring Game is simply the last time we saw them and there was no sign of the improvement that is necessary. And then you have Miles talking about them in such glowing terms
and it's just reinforcing the concern of fans in our QB play. Now who knows for sure? I haven't been at practice. Maybe JJ is lighting it up and Miles is just speaking gibberish. I do know that I watched him all of 2009 and, yes, in the Spring Game, and based on everything I have seen to date, he has made no improvement in his game. As someone who wants to see us kick arse that's not good news.
This post was edited on 8/11/10 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:49 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Nuts4LSU
I stopped reading right here.
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:52 pm to noonan
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Nuts4LSU
you are a miserable person
This post was edited on 8/11/10 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:53 pm to Nuts4LSU
2 words...."Coach speak". Now give me a 2 page double spaced essay on the matter.
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:55 pm to Nuts4LSU
dude just STFU and GTFO
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:55 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Nuts4LSU
I'm literally laughing at you right now.
There are some legitimate things to complain about with respect to Miles and things that have occurred.
However, you managed to put together an ultra weak point by point criticism. Nevermind that you argue point by point as if you were engaged in an interactive debate rather than snippets of quotes generated from specific questions.
That was pathetic man.
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:57 pm to Mike Linebacker
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I haven't been at practice
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and based on everything I have seen to date
Where? What did you see?
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Miles is just speaking gibberish
That comment sort of defines where you stand doesn't it?
Posted on 8/11/10 at 6:06 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Where? What did you see?
I watched 13 games last season and the Spring Game. Maybe all of you attend practice?
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That comment sort of defines where you stand doesn't it?
Not at all. I am not a Miles basher at all. I was saying (admittedly inartfully) that maybe Miles was conveying his true view or was engaging in coachspeak. And so maybe we shouldn't read the statements with any concern. In essence, my man, I was admitting that because (1) I haven't been at practice and (2) it's tough to really dissect (as Nuts4LSU tried to do) what Miles really thinks from his statements, that my concern about our QB may be misplaced.
Nevertheless, based on what I have seen of #9 on the field last year and in the Spring Game, I am worried that he will hold the 2010 offense back just as I believe he held the 2009 offense back.
Now, some disagree and point to his decent stats. Or they blame the line. Or they blame Crowton. And I think the line was mediocre and Crowton didn't do a good job calling the plays. But my personal opinion is that JJ's play at QB is the biggest problem we have on the offensive side of the ball.
Posted on 8/11/10 at 6:07 pm to Mike Linebacker
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But my personal opinion is that JJ's play at QB is the biggest problem we have on the offensive side of the ball.
OL was a much bigger problem.
Posted on 8/11/10 at 6:25 pm to Mike Linebacker
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But my personal opinion is that JJ's play at QB is the biggest problem we have on the offensive side of the ball.
You have convinced me. His high number of interceptions and his low completion ratio last year are matters for concern.
Posted on 8/11/10 at 6:26 pm to moneyg
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OL was a much bigger problem.
We'll agree to disagree. I'm certainly not saying the OL was great. I just think they were hampered by Jefferson's tentative, hold the ball and take the sack mentality.
I think Jefferson played one game really well last season: Auburn. We couldn't run on Auburn just like everyone else. But Jefferson played with authority. He actually looked a little pissed (this was after his dismal performance against Florida when he was roundly criticized which may explain it). He came out on fire. We had them 14-0 after the first quarter, 17-0 at halftime (should have been more but he fumbled into the Auburn endzone in the second quarter). It was 31-3 by the time Lee came in to mop it up in the 4th quarter. Total domination.
LSU had no running game to speak of in the first half. We averaged 1.8 yards per carry. But unlike other games, Jefferson played well and Auburn had to defend the pass. That's when you saw Russell Shepard break out on a 70 yard TD run. Our offense looked really good that night.
Same o-line. Same struggles to run. But #9 played really, really well. And we dominated Auburn in a manner in which we did not do with any other legitimate opponent (and, sadly, even some cupcakes).
This was one game. But it showed how good we could be on offense when JJ played well. (Contrast it to Florida when JJ played like shite and we scored a whole 3 points).
I don't rest my view on this one game. That would be folly. But all of my other critiques have been made before by others (holds ball too long, seems to require his receivers to be wide open--not just open--before throwing the pass, takes too deep of a drop, mechanics, etc. You've heard it all before).
Posted on 8/11/10 at 6:30 pm to moneyg
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point by point criticism.
Not a criticism of Miles, though (except at the end when I criticize his prognostication skills). If anything, it was a criticism of the QBs, and it was Miles' criticism, not mine. I'm not the one who said Jefferson is "a work in progress". I'm not the one who said we're not planning on Lee seeing the field in a game. Miles said those things, so I'm trying to understand what he means by them. What possible other interpretation of his comments is there? Feel free, any of you, to offer an alternative translation. Usually, it's possible to read Miles comments in any number of ways because he's such a poor speaker, but these comments were surprisingly and unusually clearly stated. What do they mean, if not what I read them to mean?
This post was edited on 8/11/10 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 8/11/10 at 6:30 pm to Mike Linebacker
Just so I can keep up. Who was the last perfect QB to play at LSU?
Posted on 8/11/10 at 6:36 pm to Nuts4LSU
Way to not be a douche... Are you nuts4conspiracies also? That's the type of behavior you get from those people
Posted on 8/11/10 at 6:38 pm to Uncommon Cents
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You have convinced me. His high number of interceptions and his low completion ratio last year are matters for concern.
I detect sarcasm.
Completing 61.5% of your 5 yard passes is not that awesome. And while he didn't throw picks, he got sacked...A LOT. One can be too cautious with the ball sometimes and that is a good description of JJ's 2009 campaign. Need I point out that for all of his wonderful statistics, we managed 3 points and 15 points in the biggest games and had the 112th ranked offense, including the 90th ranked passing offense. (Don't make me go all negatiger!
) I just don't recall a lot of times where the pass blocking was so bad that Jefferson had no time. Sure, that happened a handful of times. But I vividly remember watching him sit in the pocket and when LaFell was 10 yards open start panicking and either run it or hold the ball and take the sack.
Posted on 8/11/10 at 6:39 pm to noonan
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Nuts4LSU
I stopped reading right here.
No, you didn't. You saw it right there on the thread titles page with my name as the OP, but you clicked on it, then clicked "reply", then quoted my handle, then typed a response. You had to work at it to feign your lack of interest. Don't deny it.
Posted on 8/11/10 at 6:44 pm to Nuts4LSU
Well, in all honesty, I disregard anything Miles says to the media - good or bad. So no reason to discriminate here.
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