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Miles' main area of improvement needs to be player retention

Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:43 am
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:43 am
Think about it for a second, if Miles and his staff could cultivate a culture of finishing your degree and dedicating yourself to LSU, would we even be discussing his job at all.

Imagine 2011 with Patrick Peterson on that defense as well. Geez

Imagine 2012 if Rueben Randle stayed and was able to help Mett on offense, and if Morris Claiborne and Michael Brockers stayed on defense. That's a one game improvement at least. So going from 10-3 to more likely 11-2. I think we beat Florida for sure and probably Clemson. Hell we could have gone 12-1.

2013, with Mingo, Montgomery, Brockers, Simon, Minter all back on defense, with our offense that year, we beat Georgia for sure, and Ole Miss, another 11-1 season.

Fast forward to this year with losing Kwon Alexander, Danielle Hunter and Jalen Collins, perhaps we wouldn't have struggled as much against Ole Miss and Arkansas. Kept it closer at least.

That's why we really need guys like Beckwith, Pocic, White and Hawkins to stay, we are constantly being stung by the draft. Heck maybe those boosters who want Miles gone should pony up the dough SMU style and keep our guys in Purple and Gold.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65068 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:43 am to
He's too nice of a guy

He kills all the players with kindness
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:45 am to
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magine 2012 if Rueben Randle stayed and was able to help Mett on offense

Reubens Family didnt think very highly of the Coaches when he left.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:45 am to
or maybe he just shouldn't develop them so well so they won't get drafted in the top 3 rounds.
Posted by jaguar fan
Member since Feb 2014
754 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:46 am to
Main area of improvement is player retention.. really
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:47 am to
You are truly an idiot. We reload with young talent every year and it shows in our mistakes and discipline. Perhaps if we were able to retain our experienced talent, we could cut the shite and add wins.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:47 am to
Anyone who thinks Patrick Peterson, Morris Claiborne, Barkevious Mingo, or Michael Brockers should have, or would have under any circumstances, returned to LSU for an additional year is a complete idiot.

Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7309 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:48 am to
Half those guys you listed were drafted in the first round. Why Would they stay in school? You can always "finish your degree" after your NFL days are done. The exceptional players will always leave early. I think it come down to recruiting and how sparse we were at the DL and LB positions.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:48 am to
Miles could coach the same, my point is if we kept our upperclassmen, Miles' last 4 years are a lot better record wise and possibly performance wise. Point being if Miles wants to be stubborn cloud of dust nice guy, he needs to keep his experienced horses running in the race.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:49 am to
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Point being if Miles wants to be stubborn cloud of dust nice guy, he needs to keep his experienced horses running in the race.


ahhh...so it's Miles' fault that 1st and 2nd round draft picks are leaving for the NFL

Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61813 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:52 am to
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ahhh...so it's Miles' fault that 1st and 2nd round draft picks are leaving for the NFL


Why does Alabama have like 14 starting seniors, and when our guys trot out for senior day we have a few walk-ons and about 4 starters?
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:52 am to
QB QB QB
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:54 am to
I disagree that this is Miles' main area of improvement (that would be QB play/development), but yes, it is a big reason why LSU has struggled recently

although it has seemed to have slowed down the last few years

just not sure if that is because of Miles focusing on keeping players or overall talent level down from the past
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:58 am to
QB QB QB!
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9031 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:58 am to
Bama lost Sims, Cooper, Collins, and Yeldon. Remind me how they're doing right now?
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:59 am to
Choctaw you are worse than BeeFense sometimes. I'm not saying it's Miles fault, I'm saying Miles could be exactly the coach he wants to be, and if he could retain his upper classmen, he would have at least 4 more wins the last 4 years, and be a lot more competitive and competent on the field.

Point being is that we wouldn't even be discussing his job status whatsoever.

10-3. Vs. 11-2/12-1(beat FLA/win bowl)
10-3. Vs. 11-2/12-1(beat UGA/Ole Miss)
8-5. I still think we go 8-5 the last two but
8-5. we are much more competitive.

That record stands out a lot better.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68578 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:01 am to
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don't blame them at all. Miles hardly ever utilized him until his last year.


And two of the guys behind him are now stars in the NFL and he isn't.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 9:02 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:03 am to
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Why does Alabama have like 14 starting seniors


i'll have to know their draft outlook
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65897 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:03 am to
not really

needs to have better scheming and quarterbacks play with confidence
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
7928 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:04 am to
What if all the other schools kept all their players, too?

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