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Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:06 am to
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:06 am to
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How many LSU players did not have had the talent to play in the NFL, but made it due to the coaching Miles' staff gave them ?


all of them

quote:

Kids that weren't 4 or 5 stars out of high school. Get it now ?



4 and 5 stars out of high school still don't have the talent to play in the NFL. Get it now?
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 11:07 am
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:07 am to
The fallacy here is that gramps thinks all 4 or 5 star players ranked by recruiting services are destined for the NFL regardless what happens in college.
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:10 am to
quote:

considering Miles doesn't really recruit that many 2* players...yeah, the number isn't going to be high Morris Claiborne was probably the lowest ranked player out of HS (2* at one point) that I can remember that became a high draft pick under Miles so are you criticizing Miles for only recruiting talented players?

you do realize are kids from grand canyon st , morehead st ,liberty, etc. that were probably -1 or 1 stars out of hs playing in the nfl. Do you honestly think that is a fluke, or do you realize coaching might be involved. It seems there are a lot of you that simply don't want to answer my question. And it look like les may have to start lowering his aims in recruiting. God forbid if he ever has to actually coach his team to produce winners.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:11 am to
quote:

you do realize are kids from grand canyon st , morehead st ,liberty, etc. that were probably -1 or 1 stars out of hs playing in the nfl.

How many?
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:11 am to
It is a moot point. Lsu doesn't have to worry about losing Miles to Michigan, or anywhere else for that matter. nest year I think AJ will make a run at the Heisman after all the work good ol les will put in on him during the offseason
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 11:14 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66444 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:12 am to
Are there any players in the NFL that don't have any talent? No
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:13 am to
quote:

you do realize are kids from grand canyon st , morehead st ,liberty, etc. that were probably -1 or 1 stars out of hs playing in the nfl. Do you honestly think that is a fluke, or do you realize coaching might be involved.


I mean...yeah, it happens

not very often, but it does happen

your point?
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22124 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:14 am to
quote:

How many LSU players did not have had the talent to play in the NFL, but made it due to the coaching Miles' staff gave them ?

Zero. Do you know how I know this?

Because every player that has ever played in the NFL has had the talent to play in the NFL. It's science.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81616 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:15 am to
quote:

I can also tell you I gave up my season tickets 6 years ago
Thank God!
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:15 am to
My point of this entire thread is do you honestly think miles, or his collective staff, are capable of preparing one of those grand canyon st players and giving him the knowledge to play in the NFL.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:16 am to
i love when threads like this just completely backfire
Posted by Slapouttiger
alabama
Member since Jun 2011
3087 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:16 am to
To make it in the NFL. You must be born with God given talent. Plus must love to play football and listen to whoever your coach is and have the mental capacity to know the play book
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:16 am to
quote:

How many players during the miles era do you feel were coached up enough to play in the NFL that would not have had the pure talent to play without his guidance ?



Dumb question
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:17 am to
quote:

lus must love to play football and listen to whoever your coach is


JR, Ricky Williams, and countless other players say hi

Posted by Slapouttiger
alabama
Member since Jun 2011
3087 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:18 am to
They played and are millionaires what's the problem
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
Member since Mar 2012
24561 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:20 am to
Potato.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22124 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:22 am to
quote:

i love when threads like this just completely backfire

This thread is glorious in its failure: Les Miles only puts talented kids in the NFL, therefore he is a bad at getting kids to the NFL.

Rant logic
Posted by mbrous8
Parts unknown
Member since Jan 2008
391 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:22 am to
I really don't know why we even have coachs. LSU pretty much recruits itself and any of us would be able to win with that talent. I'm sure any of us would coach for free. No need to develop with all that talent!
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:24 am to
quote:

None of them

Be careful, they'll all be on your arse like they are mine. If any of these pumpers ever got outside the state of Louisiana , they would obviously shocked to find that other football think miles is a joke. I have family in Texas, Florida, and Georgia, all SEC strongholds that I regularly visit and they always jab me about miles. If any of you know someone outside of Louisiana, ask around.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 11:28 am
Posted by tigertracts
Member since Nov 2009
340 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:27 am to
I understand what the OP is trying to ask. I would say the majority of LSU players drafted during Miles' tenure would have been drafted almost regardless of what school they went to. I suspect some who weren't would have been if they had been coached by a more competent staff.
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