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re: Miles at his WORST is still elite in SEC!
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:22 am to RedTigerRulz
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:22 am to RedTigerRulz
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the "next year" excuse
Seeing this more and more on here the last few years
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:22 am to DBU
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But that doesn't makes Les elite
Winning a championship is elite. Every time.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:22 am to LNCHBOX
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Elite over his tenure here
Maybe.... The 2007 season was great but that team still had a lot of Sabans players on it. Then came 2008 and 2009. 2010 was decent...2011 was possibly the best regular seasons in history, BUT the big goose-egg in the title game is all that people will remember. 2012 was decent but could have been great if they beat Bama.2013 was decent as well. The loss to UGA...I can deal with. The Ole Miss game was horrible and that's ALL on Miles.... Again a decent year... So I am not sure where you put "ELITE" at... Just sayin......
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 10:24 am
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:23 am to theunknownknight
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So NEWER coaches BUILDING programs are penalized for winning more than our "best coach ever" at an established program?
Yes, because a flash in the pan benefits from not doing it over the long haul in the best division of the best conference. It's not rocket science.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:25 am to LNCHBOX
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Yes
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because a flash in the pan benefits from not doing it over the long haul in the best division of the best conference.
But Miles hasnt done it over the long haul.
He gets worse every year.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:26 am to dukke v
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The 2007 season was great but that team still had a lot of Sabans players on it
All upperclassmen coached by Miles for the majority of their careers.
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BUT the big goose-egg in the title game is all that people will remember.
And that's sad. because as you alluded to there was so much more to that season than one game.
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The Ole Miss game was horrible and that's ALL on Miles
Did Miles coach Mett to have uncharacteristic 3 pick first half?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:27 am to CptBengal
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But Miles hasnt done it over the long haul.
Yea, averaging 10 wins a year just isn't doing it over the long haul. He had two seasons of 20 wins and a bunch of losing seasons.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:27 am to LNCHBOX
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Except you didn't. Come on, let it click this time finally.
Except I DID.
Select
c.coach
, c.wins
, c.losses
, (c.wins/c.games) as perc
From coach_career c (nolock)
Where c.division = 'SEC'
and c.startdate > '08/01/2008'
and c.enddate < getdate()
Order by (c.wins/c.games) desc
Operative part is the where clause. Thanks.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:27 am to LNCHBOX
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Posted by LNCHBOX
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But that doesn't makes Les elite
Winning a championship is elite. Every time.
Ok so 2008= elite. That was 6 years ago. Finishing in the middle of the pack is not elite. Every time.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:28 am to theunknownknight
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Except I DID.
Impossible to do since they haven't all been in the SEC 7 years. Please god let it finally sink in.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:28 am to LNCHBOX
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Yea, averaging 10 wins a year just isn't doing it over the long haul.
Whats the spread on that mean?
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He had two seasons of 20 wins and a bunch of losing seasons.
thats wouldnt average to 10 you moron.
And when did he win 20 games in a season?
you pumpers are so rustled you cant even think clearly.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:29 am to CptBengal
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thats wouldnt average to 10 you moron.
And when did he win 20 games in a season?
you pumpers are so rustled you cant even think clearly.
You're really dumb, like really really dumb.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:30 am to LNCHBOX
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You're really dumb, like really really dumb
It's ok if you have no idea what you're saying.
just keep chanting "let er rip" and dream of Less as you rock yourself in the fetal position.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:31 am to LNCHBOX
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Yes, because a flash in the pan benefits from not doing it over the long haul in the best division of the best conference. It's not rocket science.
Funny how these "flash in a pan" coaches have won at a higher rate.
That's four flashes outside of Saban already above him with two other flash in a pan coaches just behind him.
Hmmm...guess Miles has lost his flash.
How is that not falling off again?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:32 am to theunknownknight
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Funny how these "flash in a pan" coaches have won at a higher rate.
That's four flashes outside of Saban already above him with two other flash in a pan coaches just behind him.
Hmmm...guess Miles has lost his flash.
How is that not falling off again?
You can't be this stupid. Can you?
Yea, clearly you can be.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:32 am to theunknownknight
notice how he doesnt even respond with an actual argument?
it's just straight ad hominem.
All to defend Less as ELITE!
it's just straight ad hominem.
All to defend Less as ELITE!
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:32 am to CptBengal
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Less
Another supposed autocorrect?
And props on letting the joke sail clear over your head yet again.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:34 am to CptBengal
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notice how he doesnt even respond with an actual argument?
How many different times do I have to say it before I decide he'll just never admit it?
You've posted nothing of substance, so perhaps you might take a look in a mirror before saying someone else doesn't make an actual argument.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:36 am to LNCHBOX
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Winning a championship is elite. Every time.
Is Chizik an outlier to your "rule"? Or is he an example of a coach who showed some success (even, perhaps, elite for a window of time), and then trended away from elite ... as some are arguing in this thread that Miles is currently doing?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:37 am to Navytiger74
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Last year they were one freak play away from another divisional title
If we're being technical about this -- they did win a divisional title. The conference officially recognizes them as Co-Champions.
SEC Divisional Tie-Breaker
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In the event of a tie for the division championship
Auburn and Alabama tied.
List of Southeastern Conference champions
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Occasionally, a tie between two or more teams occurs, requiring a tie-break. All teams involved in the tie breaker are considered Co-Divisional Champions, and the winner of the tie-breaker is the division's representative to the Championship Game.
Auburn and Alabama are listed as Western Division Champions.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 10:41 am
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