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Maason Smith and Omar Speights

Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
510 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:20 pm
Maason at the combine didn't do the bench press, and now I see why. 22 reps.

Omar Speights had 30 reps.

Malik had 15.

And people still think he may go 2nd or 3rd round.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14804 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:24 pm to
Man they just had double the weight on maasons bench
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1447 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:49 pm to
It doesnt help that he has really long arms.
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17688 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:51 pm to
I've done 21 reps of 225 and I didn't even train for the combine lmao. Maason needs to work a little harder.
Posted by creamofcornsoup
Soupymcsoupersonville, USA
Member since Apr 2021
2847 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:52 pm to
Tough guy alert
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7633 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:58 pm to
Still struggling to see what it is about this guy that warrants a draft pick.
Posted by TheMuffinMan
Arlington, VA
Member since Apr 2011
406 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:00 pm to
You’re posting about this and didn’t mention his arm length? It has a massive impact and provides separate value.
Posted by Nomadic Bengal
Member since Jul 2022
1428 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:02 pm to
Smith and Speights are flops.

I don't understand how you can be on the same team as Malik deliver the performances that they have. Just seemed really inconsistent and at time, very low effort.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
5273 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

I've done 21 reps of 225 and I didn't even train for the combine lmao. Maason needs to work a little harder.




That’s pretty awesome actually. You’re well in to the 300lb club and that doesn’t happen by accident.
Posted by Safety Blitz
The Backfield
Member since May 2022
1849 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:11 pm to
Don’t mess with Poncho. He obviously works out.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28257 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:16 pm to
I guess Smith is screwed if a bench press competition breaks out of the football field. On the other hand, Speights should be in good shape.

Smith's production (or lack thereof) knocked him well out of the first round. But a GM/coach is going to see the size and potential athleticism (something no one can "coach") and believe they can team him to be a better football player. They'll blame the lack of production on lack of coaching. Not unlike Danielle Hunter when he was at LSU and didn't put up eye-popping numbers.

As for Speights, it's hard to "teach" someone to be bigger, faster, and have quick reaction time. But if you get points for bench-pressing in a game he's probably your guy.
Posted by Kato
Sec 102
Member since Nov 2006
2768 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

I've done 21 reps of 225 and I didn't even train for the combine

Posted by LSU FSU Grad
Member since Jul 2014
2767 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:46 pm to
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Not unlike Danielle Hunter when he was at LSU and didn't put up eye-popping numbers.


Um, yeah. That's a solid argument, I guess...for the lack of production on the field. Neither did much. In fact, Maason did more early on.

The DIFFERENCE is the eye-popping numbers in pre-draft testing.

MS is 6-5, 301 and ran a 5.01 40 (good) with a 1.75 10 (eh) and a 4.69 shuttle (bad). His vertical and three-cone weren't good either and then 22 reps of 225? Not good.

DH was 6-5, 252 and ran a 4.57! a 4..5..7! Beyond elite! His 10 was 1.57, shuttle was 4.35 and his vertical and three-cone were also high. Then he did 25 reps of 225.

DH's arms were 1" shorter than MS's though so that must have been it, right?

I hope MS makes it, but he didn't perform since his FS season and he didn't test well at all beyond his size.

There are a lot of big guys in the NFL.

I'm sure some team will take him. Maybe the 2nd, but far more likely in the 3rd or 4th.

His lack of recent production and his poor testing won't help.

DH on the other hand, tested through the roof!

THAT is why he was drafted in the 3rd despite almost no production in college.

There's a difference between the two.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278185 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:48 pm to
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and he didn't test well at all beyond his size.


His weight-adjusted numbers were all mostly well above average lol
Posted by LSU FSU Grad
Member since Jul 2014
2767 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:54 pm to
Hmmm. I guess you see what you want to see.

And the NFL goes out of their way to draft "well above AVERAGE"

lol
Posted by ramchallenge
Member since Nov 2009
2969 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:06 pm to
Smith got bad advice... he should have stayed another year, as Pete Jenkins recommended to him
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18113 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:16 pm to
Fat slob that “clogs” up the middle?
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7845 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:18 pm to
His numbers definitely coincide with his play the past season. No wonder he couldn't get push in the middle. His muscle endurance mixed with lack of strength is whey he got pushed around. Looked like Tarzan, didn't play that way. Should have done another year to get stronger and faster.

He is still likely a 3rd or 4th for a team looking at a guy who played ok his fresh year before the injury. I see career backup right now
Posted by Safety Blitz
The Backfield
Member since May 2022
1849 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:23 pm to
Roids?
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10549 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:25 pm to
If the Saints draft either I will have a stroke. Don’t care what round it is.
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