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LSU up to #4 in AP poll.

Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:06 pm
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1) Ohio State (39)
2) Baylor (7)
3) Clemson (6)
4) LSU (5)
5) TCU (3)
This post was edited on 10/25/15 at 1:09 pm
Posted by sjmabry
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:07 pm to
In
Posted by CheerWhine
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:08 pm to
Who voted Bama #1?
Posted by Brageous
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:09 pm to
lolabama getting a first place vote
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:09 pm to
Don't know yet. But that link should tell you soon when it's updated.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:11 pm to
Does Feinbaum have an AP vote?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:14 pm to
Updyke was my guess
Posted by COTiger
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Who voted Bama #1?


Which leads to the question. Does the AP poll have any relevance?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:31 pm to
My guess is either Ed or Sam
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:31 pm to
No poll has any relevance right now. It's just something people can gripe about.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:38 pm to
A&M out of the top 25
Posted by Bunta
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:42 pm to
Jon Wilner ranked them #1
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:45 pm to
Wow. He had them 5th last week behind LSU, Clemson and Mich St. Wtf about this weekend made him move them up?!
This post was edited on 10/25/15 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Puffoluffagus
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:46 pm to
Jon Wilner:
LINK

quote:

Clearly, there isn’t an obvious choice at this point in a turbulent season, leaving the AP poll to the whims of individual voter philosophy. Here’s the central issue as I see it: The teams that have looked the best have, for the most part, played the weakest schedules.

To illustrated the situation — the difficulty of making apples-to-apples comparisons — let’s examine Alabama and Baylor using one of the evaluation exercises I employ as we get deeper into the season (it’s worthless in September).


The Bears have flattened everyone they’ve player and could well end up being a playoff team and perhaps the champion (depending on Seth Russell’s neck, of course).

But look and the number of wins for each of Baylor’s seven opponents, with a zero for the FCS team:

0: Lamar
0: Kansas
1: SMU
2: Iowa State
3: West Virginia
4: Rice
5: Texas Tech

That’s an average of 2.1 wins per opponent — awful in terms of SOS, awful in terms of quality wins and the prime reason Baylor’s schedule is 101st in the Sagarins. It’s the final week of October, after all.

Now, Alabama:

1: UL-Monroe
3: Middle Tennessee
3: Arkansas
3: Tennessee
5: Georgia
5: A&M
6: Wisconsin
6: Ole Miss

That’s an average of 4 wins per opponent. Alabama’s foes have, week after week after week, had double the number of wins as Baylor’s opponents. (Bama’s SOS is 8th in Sagarin, btw.)

Again: We’re using two ends of the spectrum to illustrate the challenge in compiling the ballot with wild variances in the quality of schedules.

At what point do SOS and quality wins trump won-loss record?

This deep into the season, I’m reluctant to slot one team over another if there is a two-loss difference in record (5-2 over 7-0, for instance). But when there’s a one-loss difference and a marked disparity in SOS/quality wins, I have no problem slotting, say, 6-1 over 7-0.
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:48 pm to
Excellent point. I forgot to take off my BCS hat.
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:50 pm to
I still don't understand why Ohio State is getting so much love? It's not like they are light years better than anyone in the top 10.
Posted by StreetDiction
Austin
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:52 pm to
Now it is quality wins? What happened to the eye test? I thought that was the most important.
Posted by jyoung1
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Jon Wilner ranked them #1


SECbias much?

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:56 pm to
LSU opponents:

WKU: 6
UF: 6
USC: 3
EMU: 1
Syr: 3
AUB: 4
MsSt: 6

Average: 4.1
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:58 pm to
He's from San Jose, CA
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